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White flag of defeat could be displayed soon. (Rust)
You better believe when they say it you can see rust, there's a lot more you can't see. This pic shows the area to be investigated.
![]() Here's what's behind. ![]() All of this debris came out of that hole and there's twice as much more in the shop vac. ![]() I actually had the inner rocker trial fitted here last night, but I wanted to make sure I had access to the suspension console before I welded it in. ![]() I'm now going to go to the other side, which doesn't look as bad on the surface. If it is, I may be real discouraged. You know, I shouldn't have done all the bodywork on the top side first. Starting at the bottom, I would have parted it out instead. If and when this car gets painted, it will be a damn good looking and straight car. It certainly won't give any indication of the condition of the bottom. ![]() EDIT: Make sure you read my other follow up posts here. This is not the whole story. Last edited by Zeke; 10-08-2004 at 05:30 PM.. |
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I am so sorry you found that Milt. Actually, I am glad you found it now before you started all the work welding in the rockers. At this point, If you can access the rusty parts, make patches and weld them in. You are about as deep as you can get.
I will have a beer for you tonight. You will need a few.
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Don't take any guff from those swine!
You're doing an awesome job, keep up the good work. JCM
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BTW, you wonder why you can see red overspray on the oil lines and heater tube? That's because the PO painted the car with the gaping hole in the inner rocker.
Just a bunch of GD idiots! No offense to the guy I bought it from or the guy that looked at it for me. I knew what I was getting into. And, I could have parted the car from the get go and made money. As it is, I have nearly covered the purchase of the car by selling the deep sixes and sport seats. So, it's almost a free car except for the enormous amount of labor. It will be a street legal track car, not some garage queen. But, we all knew that anyway, eh? ![]() |
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Why don't you cut out all the sheetmetal and use round tubes for the build up.
![]() I found similar stupid repairs on my 71. My favorite was the fist sized ball of newspaper and bondo. The list goes on.
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Jamie - I can explain it to you. But I can not understand it for you. 71 911T SWT - Sun and Fun Mobile 72 911T project car. "Minne" - A tangy version of tangerine #projectminne classicautowerks.com - EFI conversion parts and suspension setups. IG Classicautowerks |
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How does the statement go: "Don't walk away from a rusty 911, run!" Jim
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Zeke - could you do me a favor while you're in there?
I need the diameter and depth of the big torsion bar bushing hole in the framerail - the hole in the outer rail and the sleeve inside it. Thanks!
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Milt,
I've done this before. All you need to do is focus on one patch at a time. Take satisfaction from each repair, do them one at at time. If it takes a little longer because there's a little more rust, that's not a problem. From what I've seen you're doing a fantastic job. Michel Richard |
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Grind it...spray it ....drive it until it breaks...then move on.....
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Zeke, since it's going to be a track car just weld a jungle-gym of a roll cage in that baby and tie the front and rear members into the cage. You won't even need solid rocker panels! Just Kidding, keep fighting the good fight!
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Milt, perseverence, let the rustoration be a zen sort of experience. I believe it was you that asked me why I bothered when you saw the pics of my rustoration
I did itbecause I had all the parts, for the tub, for the engine, roll cage suspension etc. When I saw how badly the tub was rusted I took it as a challenge to fix the tub. Im almost done. I installed the engine management last week, and cranked the engine, I have spark, and the noid light blinks, so I have fuel too. All I have to do now is finish my front mounted oil tanks and associaterd plumbing.. To properly fix some of those areas you have to open up quite a bit of sheet metal to allow access, and to allow good positioning of the torch etc.
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Awesome work Milt, it's going towards a good cause. Keep it up!
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Milt, far be it from me to give advice to somebody with your hand skills. If you ever need a shoulder to cry on, there's beer in the fridge, and Cindy makes great blueberry pancakes...just ask the guy you sold the seats to. Good luck in whatever you decide!
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Milt,
Keep going, don't give up!!!
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Milt can't white flag this. He's *sick*.
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Hat's off you Milt. I don't have the patience.
Good luck. Tom
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Don't be a pussy Milt, buck up you, and get back out to the garage.
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Go Milt Go!! You are a rare California Porsche enthusiast......one that can say he has fixed rust.
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It's an 'S'......well worth saving!
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