Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Porsche Forums > Porsche 911 Technical Forum


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2,052
Fuchs valve stem support

Hi everyone,

I have an '87 Carrera with 6x7x16 Fuchs.

Last night I purchased a set of 7x8x16 Fuchs and noticed that they don't have the valve stem support like the 7s that I currently have. Is this due to the 7x8x16s being older? I assume that it is OK without them. Does anyone know of a way to add them. I would think that on the track, the support would be a good safety item.........




Thanks in advance,


-Chris

__________________
1987 Guards Red Targa (sold)
2006 Toyota Tundra DC 4x4, the "man-e-van"
1998 CR500

Well on the fringe......
Old 11-17-2004, 08:51 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Friend of Warren
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Lincoln, NE
Posts: 16,483
The valve stem support is an aftermarket item. Personally I prefer metal valve stems which don't need the support.
__________________
Kurt V
No more Porsches, but a revolving number of motorcycles.
Old 11-17-2004, 08:55 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 3,019
I imagine the tire shop would be able to add stem supports. That would be a very good idea actually. I have seen posts before where guys had the rubber valve stem shear & lose air on the track.
Old 11-17-2004, 08:56 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Monroe, Louisiana
Posts: 1,340
I have had problems with the valve stem
supports. I had one eat into the stem and
cause a leak ! I strongly suggest metal
stems for all Porsche rims.
Old 11-17-2004, 09:04 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Galivants Ferry, SC
Posts: 10,550
It's not an aftemarket item...it has a Porsche part number.
If used correctly...it won't bite into rubber and avoids hi-speed centrifuge failure....

It's not used on 6" because the angle is wrong...used on larger sizes, though.

Wil
__________________
Wil Ferch
85 Carrera ( gone, but not forgotten )
Old 11-17-2004, 09:25 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2,052
So, given that the set of 7x8x16s that I just bought does not have the supports on any of them, would you guys suggest getting them installed or simply going with metal stems as Kurt mentioned?


Thanks again, you guys are the greatest!


-Chris
__________________
1987 Guards Red Targa (sold)
2006 Toyota Tundra DC 4x4, the "man-e-van"
1998 CR500

Well on the fringe......
Old 11-17-2004, 09:30 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
Platinum Member
 
dad911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
Posts: 20,922
metal stems.
__________________
Politics is in the eye of the beholder - Rodney Dangerfield
Old 11-17-2004, 09:37 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Somatic Negative Optimist
 
Gunter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Winlaw, BC, Canada
Posts: 7,206
Garage
If you are mounting new tires, go with metal stems. If you like the looks of stem supports, get the Porsche OEM. It's six half a dozen, whatever you like.
__________________
1980 Carrerarized SC with SS 3.2, LSD & Extras. SOLD!
1995 seafoam-green 993 C2, LSD, Sport seats.
Abstract Darwin Ipso Facto: "Life is evolutionary random and has no meaning as evidenced by 7 Billion paranoid talking monkeys with super-inflated egos and matching vanity worshipping illusionary Gods and Saviors ".
Old 11-17-2004, 09:46 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Registered
 
goat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: N. CA. Sonoma. County
Posts: 1,278
Garage
I am sure Pelican can order the stem supports for you. That said I would go with the metal stems if possible.
The stem supports are basically held onto by an adhesive, looks like double sided thin foam tape to me.
__________________
Tim.
1988 911 Carrera. Silver.
1973 914 Metalic Blue.
2012 Cayenne S
Old 11-17-2004, 11:02 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Registered
 
randywebb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Greater Metropolitan Nimrod, Oregun
Posts: 10,040
What?! Nobody is gong to discuss the aerodynamics of adding the supports?
__________________
"A man with his priorities so far out of whack doesn't deserve such a fine automobile."

- Ferris Bueller's Day Off
Old 11-17-2004, 12:06 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Registered
 
GeorgeM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
Posts: 925
Garage
That's exactly what it is. Just like the black wheel weight backing tape.

Mine had been gone when I bought the car and never re-installed them, until I took the car to RUF for some work. They took it upon themselves to install a set for me. They're my street Fuchs, so I don't care. The wheels do clean up easier w/o them though.
__________________
George M
'89 Carrera 3.2
'91 928GT
'76 914
'18 Macan GTS
Old 11-17-2004, 12:09 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: San Anselmo, CA
Posts: 744
Send a message via AIM to dtfastbear Send a message via Yahoo to dtfastbear
The company that used to be Tweeks has them in the catalog for a couple bucks.
__________________
'86 Carrera cab (euro)
Spec Miata
Old 11-17-2004, 12:36 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
Moderator
 
Bill Verburg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 26,393
Garage
agree, metal stems w/ gasketed caps
__________________
Bill Verburg
'76 Carrera 3.6RS(nee C3/hotrod), '95 993RS/CS(clone)
| Pelican Home |Rennlist Wheels |Rennlist Brakes |
Old 11-17-2004, 01:14 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #13 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2,052
Metal it is


Thanks everyone!


-Chris
__________________
1987 Guards Red Targa (sold)
2006 Toyota Tundra DC 4x4, the "man-e-van"
1998 CR500

Well on the fringe......
Old 11-17-2004, 01:25 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #14 (permalink)
Registered
 
chibone_914's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Los Angeles,Ca. USA
Posts: 641
Please don't use metal stems unless your wheels are designed specifically for them. Metal stems use two small rubber gaskets that, over time, shrink up and begin to leak! Plus metal stems cannot survive an impact from the side, laterally. They just shear clean off.

Just use the rubber valve stems with the stem supports. Use a small zip tie on the stem to the support to keep the stem from whipping around when on the track.
__________________
Thank you!

John

johnechi@hotmail.com
Old 11-17-2004, 01:55 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #15 (permalink)
Friend of Warren
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Lincoln, NE
Posts: 16,483
Quote:
Originally posted by chibone_914
Please don't use metal stems unless your wheels are designed specifically for them. Metal stems use two small rubber gaskets that, over time, shrink up and begin to leak! Plus metal stems cannot survive an impact from the side, laterally. They just shear clean off.
Huh? I have never had a problem with the gaskets shrinking up. Of course I change the metal valve stems every time I get new tires.
__________________
Kurt V
No more Porsches, but a revolving number of motorcycles.
Old 11-17-2004, 02:05 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #16 (permalink)
Registered
 
white87911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: bucks county, PA
Posts: 614
Garage
Pelican sells the factory aluminum valve stem supports. I bought mine from them. They are a nice touch and a conversation piece. They look great on my 7 & 8 fuchs. Go to the Pelican catalong and search valve stem. You should be able to find them. I think a set of 4 cost @ $15.00
__________________
"Coffee is for Closers"
"Push the button Max!!!"
Old 11-17-2004, 03:41 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #17 (permalink)
Registered
 
white87911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: bucks county, PA
Posts: 614
Garage
Aluminun Valve Stem Support - Pelican Part # C-361-561-01, $3.70 per piece.
__________________
"Coffee is for Closers"
"Push the button Max!!!"
Old 11-17-2004, 03:43 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #18 (permalink)
 
Registered
 
autobonrun's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Kansas
Posts: 1,810
Garage
Be careful of some metal stems.

Some are only metal sleeves that slip over the rubber stems. The sleeve doesn't extend down into the opening in the rim. If you look at the base, which is the weakest point in terms of centrifugal forces, it's still unsupported rubber. I've stuck with the metal supports on mine. I would think if the metal stem is supported all the way into the base, it would work fine.
Old 11-17-2004, 05:44 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #19 (permalink)
Me like track days
 
Craig 930 RS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Kirkland, WA
Posts: 10,209
Leaks with metal stems:

Happened to me. The rubber does indeed perform a shrinky dink manuever.
But, they provide excellent support.

__________________
- Craig 3.4L, SC heads, 964 cams, B&B headers, K27 HF ZC turbo, Ruf IC. WUR & RPM switch, IA fuel head, Zork, G50/50 5 speed. 438 RWHP / 413 RWTQ -
"930 is the wild slut you sleep with who tries to kill you every time you "get it on" - Quote by Gabe
Movie: 930 on the dyno
Old 11-17-2004, 06:10 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #20 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:31 AM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.