Need quick help!! how to get shift rod bushing on?!??!? - Page 2

astark · 01-29-2005, 02:54 PM

Don't give up! I had a difficult time with that bushing to. I tried to press the bushing in with a vise and bent the bracket. Didn't realize it until I reinstalled everything and after tightening the bracket in place, the shift rod would bind. I loosened the bracket and the shift rod moved smoothly. Had to order another bracket from our host. Took a few days to get, not a stock part.
Take your time, boil the bushing for 10 minutes and make sure that it is seated over the retaining teeth on the bracket.

Hope this helps,
Alan

doozer · doozer's Garage

Show the other side!

I think that is where your problem is!

biosurfer1 · 01-29-2005, 02:55 PM

oops, one more...

doozer · doozer's Garage

looking down the shaft hole I can see distorsions of the busshing at the other end where the toothed side of the bracket is - I dont think it is fulley seated in the bracket!!

biosurfer1 · 01-29-2005, 02:58 PM

ya, it looks like there is a small piece bound up on a tooth or two, but i cant get to them with the screw driver, i guess i'll mess with it a little more and see if i can get it to smooth out. thanks guys

doozer · doozer's Garage

see where the teeth are holding on to the leading edge of the bushing and causing indentions in this photo.. You need to pry between the teeth and the bushing to pull the leading edge of the bushing further out beyond the teeth a hair. This should return the bushing to Round.

doozer · doozer's Garage

Once it is unbound it should work just fine on the shift shaft.

Just double check fitment.

Thanks
Todd

biosurfer1 · 01-29-2005, 03:08 PM

well i got it over most of the teeth, but it still looks slightly off, maybe once i get it back on the rod, it will round out better,,, thanks for all the help todd.

randywebb · 01-29-2005, 03:12 PM

as long as the shaft (tube) slides in there fine, it doesn't matter what it looks like

Zeke · 01-29-2005, 06:21 PM

The way I see that last pic, the bracket is OOR. It's eccentric towards the top of the pic. Smack that puppy back to round!

doozer · doozer's Garage

Biosurfer1 - You are welcome!

biosurfer1 · 01-30-2005, 02:49 PM

ok, now on to the next problem, i got the new bushing on and after boiling it again, was able to round it out, but when i went to install it back on the rod, it wont go on, too tight. is it even supposed to be this tight? the old one was able to slide along the rod and rotate about it with ease, i cant even get the new one on, is it ok to use a dremel and shave a little off? any other way to get it on, cause there isnt much space to try to pry it on inside the tunnel. thanks again

randywebb · 01-30-2005, 03:03 PM

You have to got to have been sent the wrong part -- but yeh shave it down - wrap sandpaper around a wood rod or use a reamer -- be sure it is smooth and the shift rod slides easily

you know you're gonna have to do this again in a few years, right? it's a wear item.

biosurfer1 · 01-30-2005, 03:09 PM

the coupler bushings went a hundred times easier which seems to be the opposite of everyone elses experience. i'll see what i can do with this bushing and if it doesnt work, i guess i'll just order a new one, and maybe a new bracket while i'm at it...i've had about enough of this already.

Jesset100 · Jesset100's Garage

Don't give up. The reward will be worth the trouble. While I had my carpet out cleaning them, I replaced the ball\cup bushing, rod bushing and the coupler bushings. What a difference they make. I know my syncros are about shot, but all these new bushings make shifting the trans much more pleasant.

biosurfer1 · 01-30-2005, 04:37 PM

i'm sure that new bushings will help, that wasnt the problem, its th fact that not many people have had trouble with the shift rod bushing and mine has been nothing but a pain in the ass, so i'm worried that something isnt right on another part, but hopefully i can get it on tomorrow and report back on if it was worth it.

gedk · 01-30-2005, 05:36 PM

Just did this last week. Had the same exact problem.

I solved it using a giant vise with two pieces of steel larger than the part.. Put some gease all over the bushing, put it in the vise and close.

Then use a big socket on the outside of the bushing (the size of the bushing) and a little one in between the size of the shift rod. Put all of this back and the vise and close it up tight.

Final step... hold the metal end of the bracket in the vise and use a large screw driver to get the lip of the busing over the scaloped metal side.

The whole thing took 15 minutes- once I figured it out.

The shift busing project is pretty easy- except for this step. It was a bear!

The good news if it makes a big difference.

Good luck.

Ged

biosurfer1 · 01-30-2005, 05:48 PM

i tried to sandpaper it out before i saw your post, i probably should have thought of that before the sandpaper....anyways, i may have over done it, now the bushing slides right over the rod and i think there is too much front to back play, i'll try it anyways tomorrow and if not, i'll order another from pelican, at $7.30, it wasnt a very costly mistake, hopefully the next will go much smoother.

doozer · doozer's Garage

biosurfer1 -
All the ones I have done, I have never boiled one.
I guess it is ok to do this.
I just wonder what effect it has on the part.

Thanks
Todd

biosurfer1 · 02:57 PM

well i just had to fork over $48 to get a new shift rod bracket and bushing since i think the old one is the reason that nothing seems to work right. hopefully the second time will go smoother, this is one of the worst decisions i have made with a porsche to do these shift bushings, i really hope they are somewhat worth it in the end...