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Yes, the owner mentioned a bunch of problems he had with MM when he ordered the motor...basically lots of run-around and teething problems. It sounds like all of them have been addressed, with the exception of lower than normal oil pressure (roughly 10 psi per 1000 rpm when hot).

Here's what the owner had to say about MM:

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I fixed several oil leaks which were there as soon as I fired the new motor up. I had to pull the engine out 4 times to fix all of them.
I replaced the wiring harness. The "custom harness" which came with the motor was a joke. I was told all I would have to do us just plug it in.
The engine arrived with a cheap set of Bursch headers, I had ordered 1-3/4" O.D. Stainless headers. Troy told me they "accidentally" shipped the engine with the wrong headers and they would get me the ones I ordered. After 3 weeks or so he says he can't get me what I ordered and I would need to shell out more money for what I originally wanted and paid for. I finally ordered the GHL headers on my own.
I replaced the $15.00 Kragen fuel pump they sent with the engine with a setup designed by PMO which allowed me to use the factory pump. I should have realized then that I was in trouble when I saw this pump in the crate with the engine.
The Weber's idle jet assemblies were missing the 6 sealing O rings which made a substantial improvement in the engine idle. I discovered the O rings were missing when I bought rebuild kits for the Webers.
The "custom" brackets for mounting the Electromotive ignition (metal straps used to hang garage door openers) quickly disintegrated.

He also added that the Webers have always run rich, despite efforts to 'tune' them.

That said, the CAR is why I am interested in the deal. When a tired but complete 84-89 3.2L brings $4000-6000, what is this 3.4L worth? Even though MM was involved, the hardware is still there, with receipts, and it does (and has) run strong for 33K miles.

It isn't my car or motor yet, so your opinions are why I'm here. I won't take it personal. I think you guys rule!

SmileWavy

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A motor built by MM is worth somewhere between nothing and the cost of the parts that survive after it blows up.

Like the man said, use the search button.

Find another car...

I've never dealt with MM, but from all I've heard of them, I wouldn't trust that motor as far as I can throw it.

However...

It sounds like the current owner addressed many external issues. Now, what about internal issues that might be the motor's concern?

Ideas:

1) Ask the CO if he can deduct the motor from the cost of the car; buy it as a roller.
2) Ask for a warranty.
3) (and probably most importantly) Call a good Porsche shop - TRE in North Hollywood, Otto's in Venice (Beach); Supertec in OC (or maybe Henry's already moved to San Diego), and get their opinion of what you want to do. You might get in over your head with a POS motor.
4) Or you can simply walk away and buy a nice SC or Carrera.

Kaisen, you should walk away from that motor. Motormeister's reputation extends from coast to coast.

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Originally posted by randywebb
A motor built by MM is worth somewhere between nothing and the cost of the parts that survive after it blows up.

Like the man said, use the search button.

Find another car...

Kaisen:

Randy's words here are 24kt gold.

I wouldn't take it if it were free; I've seen the innards of too many MM engines.

Find another, Sir.

MotorMeister = Walk away

If you just want the car, try to buy it as a roller or with the original motor instead.

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Originally posted by Craig911
brrrrroooooooooooowwwwwwwww.........records scratches to an end.

LOL!
-Chris

"I have the opportunity to acquire this motor"

Oh.......and the last thing:
You have an even better opportunity to get another motor

I have learned a lot from this post, my buddy said steer away from MM. Seems was better advice than I allowed. MM is that bad, huh! Thanks for the interesting post and replies.

I think I'd rather aquire a good, low mileage pulled motor (euro or US) as a better option. Looks like MUCH better reliability, and at fair prices as opposed to a mangled MM motor.

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Originally posted by 350HP930
RUN AWAY, RUN AWAY . . .

But, but...........but they buy the big ads in Panorama magazine.

What is the story here?

EDIT: Just read page two of the thread, never mind - thanks for the info.:cool: