uh oh... those words again

I am not a WEVO employee in fact I am unemployable. Never received anything from WEVO I haven't paid full retail for past Hayden's advice on the phone. But I do like sharing the "good stuff" I have found building my cars. WEVO products have headed that list more than once.

Wevo's signature is good engineering. Try one of their products and good engineering shines through bright and clear.

Since this has been asked I went out and pulled my set screw. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1117090188.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1117090211.jpg

Note that it is a generic set screw, which are generally heat treated but with a small change. One end has the standard allen head for a allen wrench. The other end is milled as you can see in these pictures. Milled to accept some sort of end piece. Nylon I suppose since my magnet won't pull it out of the hole. Set screw does not butt up against the metal of the other set screw but it does lock it down. Not a huge engineering achievement but a simple answer for a simple problem.

The best engineering is often the most simple answer.

May be Hayden will drop by and tell us exactly what does fit in the end of this allen screw. But it is obvious they have thought about it. There is also a similar set up in the shifter.

Which one is it? setscrews

Small screw in this picture..

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1112161653.jpg

Glenn, bet it looked like this one when it went in.

http://www.mcmaster.com/param/images...oint_60x60.gif

"soft tip"

With this experience I'll be looking at the needle bearings for the front end next year :)

I can certainly see how these will cure so issues we have with the thirty-something year old rubber bits, and I understand the forces on these bushings. I have pulled off quite a few front and rear suspension arms and have seen what the years do to the rubber and the carriers. The rear covers that I just pulled off this past weekend are testimony to the fact, they were rusted almost through. Much is going to be learned through many miles which are logged on these bearings. For the folks who are only track people, perhaps they are the solution, but for others, this may not be the way to go. Your time and mileage may vary.

Street car here. 1500 miles last 2 weeks. 1500 miles this weekend.

Monoballs were once thought of as track only gear. Good number of folks have added Elephant's newer sealed monoballs to "street" cars.

There are others out there like my car. A number of mods made to this car are track proven and normally track only, floating front rotors, monoballs, 22/30 Torsion bars and sport shocks. All mods that some of the long term "experts" here said would be too stiff for street use.

Thinking a bit out of the box and following the new technology I now have a street car with a good many track bits that has a level of ride comfort more akin to a well sprung BWM touring car than a torsion bar 911 track car for ride comfort.

Technology can be a good thing. There is so much technology wrapped up in Porsche bits that it is often times difficult to pick and choose what might be good for you use.

I am actually using these particular bits on my car. They are working for me. It is not theory but experience.

Haven't read through all the latest post details.....but FWIW my 'new' 930 has most of the WEVO bits - and its is phenomenal.

Completely supple on the bumpy track at Pacific Raceways, direct feel, perfect. I'd recommend it for anyone - except for perhaps very casual drivers who wouldn't appreciate the improvements.

I just don't understand how the WEVO spring plate in conjunction with Elephant PB bushings can have a more supple ride than standard spring plates in conjunction with Elephant PB bushings. In either case, the spring plate is just a piece of metal that allows the spring (t-bar) to connect with the trailing arm.

I could see if you were using the total "Spring Plate System", but there is no significant difference between the two other than ride height adjustability, or am I just missing something here?

FWIW also - My 911 and the 930 both have every Elephant (& WEVO pieces on the 3.6) with the exception of the spring plates. A choice we made, IMO going with the most important pieces -

Dane - did you revalve your Bilstein Sport Shocks to comply with your 22/30 torsion bars?

Mike Bonkalski - thanks for the prompt emails Wednesday. I'm certain we'll be talking soon. :)

Read: "Who cares what you guys are typing about. Everyone; look at MEEEeeeeee. "

yes, the piss'n-contest has become SO obvious that even I see it. --but carry on. :D

...Who will be the first with real GOLDPLATED Wevo stuff? . . .ya know, only posers have gold anodize. Real gold is smoother AND cost even more .. .Ya dont need to be a casual drivers to appreciate the improvements.

:rolleyes:

BS.

That simply means I may have missed some details and may be speaking slightly OT --- but appreciate the Elephant bits and how well they perform. I could give a chit if someone looks at me and my car or not. I enjoy it, I report about it and what I like ----

Okay, my mistake. Carry-on.

Sorry I thought I was being more clear on what was being compared.

The ride difference between the two cars in this comparison is significant and immediately noticeable even to me..gumbie porsche guy..

Only difference in suspension is one car has the WEVO spring plate and ball bearing/roller bearing bushing system set up. The other OEM spring plates and Elephant poly/bronze spring plate bushings.

I am suggesting that the WEVO setup spring plate bearing system has significantly less friction than the Elephant spring plate bushing set up from my own experience driving these two cars.

Not something I would have believed. Never thought you would be able to immediately notice the difference but I could.

I bought the WEVO spring plate and bushing set up on price point alone after looking at what it would cost to buy Elephant spring plate poly bronze bushings and adjustable spring plates.

It isn't hard to see that a better spring plate could be done when looking at the adjustable spring plate from Weltmeister. That sealed the WEVO purchase for me.

The reason I keep typing is I am truly amazed at the difference in the two cars when you make a direct comparison.

David? On the re-valve? I had a front set re-valved by Biltstein for my car's weight and power. They sucked, way too stiff for the rest of the car and that was before I changed all the bushings out. I went back to stock sports.

I missed the part about the WEVO spring plates having a roller bearing setup. I should read more carefully. It makes much more sense now.

I believe it is a combo of roller/needle and ball bearings on the WEVO set up.

I guess I'm too lazy to go back and read every post, but are the bearings in Wevo's spring plate needle, roller or ball type? The first few threads suggest their spring plate uses needle bearings, then the last few threads talked about roller and ball bearings. Which is it?

Thanks,
Sherwood

Both, is how I read it. (Ball and needle for thrust and cylindrical)

I vaguely remember discussing once how the rubber bushings would need to be replaced by a needle and thrust setup due to inherent lateral chassis to tire relative motion during cornering.