I bought this 84 with the 3.6 already installed. It is a 91 motor that had 41k.

915 trans
Lightweight flywheel
headers, Sport exhaust
Eldgin cams
Chipped
Cold A/C (no heat)
17" 996 wheels
Drilled rotors
Elwood brake bias
New Bilstiens
Front strut brace


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what color is that 1982 SC?
 

Blue82Coupe,

Awesome color! I must know what it is called. It is stunning.

is this wine red ?

One more. A 74 Targa with a '92 3.6, NBD chip, hot cams and some minor mods to the suspension after a couple of off-track events at Willow Springs...

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Are you referring to the 84 Euro?

Yeap...

I was not sure either at first, I needed some touch up paint and order a small amount from Paintscrstch.com and it matched perfectly. The color was 84 Porsche Ruby Red.

3.6 Conversion to my 2200lb 71 RS Clone should be finished today. Going to VIR over the weekend, we'll see how she does! 96 993 Varioram with 21k, Sachs Clutch, Rebuilt 915 with new LSD, Short Shifter with reverse lockout, pics to follow. All work done by Air Cooled Classics in Knoxville, TN, engine and kit supplied by Steve Timmins, Instant-G. This puppy should be quick.

My 911 was the same color before an accident. We were sideswiped by a semi that took out the right side of the car. Both fenders and such and I was tired of the color, so switched it to silver, my favorite color and love the car even more.

Being in a part of the world where dark is even hotter, the dark color just did not work out. I still like it, but like silver more.

Hey jfoulds,
Let us know how she goes! You will love it, I am sure!
Give it some time because the carbon build up needs to be burnt out of it, now that the air pump is gone and the brain has been set to the 'HOT' position! Run minimum 95 octane in it [they really like 100!] and the beast will run and growl!
Drums

Well, I'm currently impatiently awaiting my conversion flywheel from Dr Timmins, so count me in as well, my car is an 86 with a 96 v-ram.
Not to beat a dead horse, but as far as the exhaust issue is concerned, I have the gillet HE's, and the 17725 crossflow dynomax I bought is just way too long to even fit in between the flanges.
I am thinking, if there's space, I will just use the muffler and fab up pipes from the HE flanges, that go around the muffler and into it from opposite sides. If there's no space, I need to look for a muffler that is much shorter, or a muffler that has the inlets in the middle, kinda like a factory sport muffler, only having the inlets closer together near the centre. I like the crab, but I can't justify paying sooo much for a muffler either!
Now if there's a way to have it so that I can have the two tips coming out from under the license plate...

Hey Mike the Mechanic,
Cut off the flanges that are on the stock cats, get the 3" resonator tips from Timmins [he will give you the numbers so that you can order them yourself], weld them onto the cat and you will have a very good [and mean] sounding [not to mention smog legal] and free flowing exhaust! Hot rod guys are continually complimenting me on the great sound at idle. My wife is okay with it so it must not be too bad! Before you go the 'cut and chop' route, give it a try...the tips are about $35.00 apiece and are made from stainless steel.
I have spoken with the people who do Timmin's reprograming and they concur with a minimum octane of 95 to run these engines. Put in 100 octane and it will turn into a growling beast!
Your car is going to be 'scary fast'. You will not be disappointed! Enjoy!
Drums

Here is mine. Originaly a '76 S....it has taken a hell of work and $$$... but I do not regret any minute or cent spent.

I am proud of having done all the work myself (including the body work and paint), and it is amazing how much I have learned since I started. Needless to say, it would have been impossible without the help of the people of this board...and in particular the ones participating on this threat. THANKS

As I once read in this forum, anyone with $$ can buy a new 911, only a few can build up these beasts.

Here goes a pic.
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Mines got a '97 Vram, 22/29 Sanders hollow torsion bars, stock sways, polybronze front and rear, 930 turbo brakes, Quaife torque biasing diff, 7.5" & '9 BBS's that fit without spacers, custom transcooler/circulation system, new top by Carsinc, new windshield and seal, new balljoints, new bilsteins front and rear, Timmons install kit with Sachs powerclutch, new TO bearing, new pinion shaft bearing, all new synchros and dog gears Wevo gateshift kit.

After all this work it's for sale. Need money.

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Mike

Has anyone tried the route of coring out a 993 cat and turning the innards into a muffler? It seems like the ends could be sliced off and redone fairly easily. I'm looking for something that would be reasoably quiet.
The fit would be pretty certain. Maybe not the prettiest solution, but functional.

I haven't tried it myself, the one person that I spoke to that did try it said that it was a disaster and destroyed the cat.

Supposedly the factory did design it so that the cat innards could be replaced.

That was good thinking on their part. I've seen in one of the parts diagrams that they have two sets of flanges that are sold seperately that clamp onto a Cat that comes without the flanges. I assume that could have been to deal with the fact that the heat exchangers came from two different sources. What's the history with that?

I think I confused you. I am just looking at another option on a muffler without the cat. My car's exempt in Maryland because it's titled Historic.
No inspections, no emissions tests. I'm really trying to come up with a simple, inexpensive and relativly quiet solution for those using 993 heat exchangers. Every time I look at the options that are out there, this keeps popping into my head. I keep wondering... Has someone tried this? Can it be done?

The most elegant and likely mellowest i've seen w/ 993 headers is the Steve Weiner setup seen here at Rennsport Systems.
http://www.rennsportsystems.com/ModifiedMontya.jpg

I'm pretty sure that won't fit with the 993 aluminum heat cross over piece. It might be the picture, but that looks different from the engine mount that I have. Nice looking but how much $$?

Hey Drums, thanks for the info, but I don't have the factory cat, it didn't come with my engine! I think thats what i would have done... unless I can find a cheap cat somewhere?? I don't think it'll be too loud for me, as my last setup was two dump tubes out of the turbos! Also, I know it'll be fun and quick, but not really scarey fast. This engine has less than half my last motor's output! but i really like the cat idea... It's really surprising how resonated tips affect sound.

Get a hold of Timmins and ask him where it is.....it should have been included in the price of the engine.
He is good about sending things.....the original air filter box didn't come with the engine but I needed it to pass smog [even if we had to hack it to pieces to get it in the engine compartment] and he sent it, no charge. Ask him, I bet he will send you one.
Drums

Nah, I bought ther engine locally, not off of Steve.

I have a 83 cab Guards Red with cashmere interior mods include SSI's 2 into 1, H4 lights, turbo brakes, Bilsteins, Carrera front bumper, Euro lights, Short shifter, Fikse FM10's 7's & 9's and of course a 3.6 (964 motor) mounted to a 915 tranny

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1987 3.6 G-50
 

Here is my Red 1987 with a 3.6 and a G50 Trans. I got it from Mark Kinninger from San Diego a Porsche Tech at The Black Forest. The Blue car in the back is also a car he built with a 3.6, that was in Excellence May 2008. He went through the engine and it runs super strong. I love it!




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Interesting to see how soon these pioneers discovered that with the increased HP the need for suspension mods was imperative....

Hi Chris,
Drove that car the day before it left, awesome.
He builds so many of these, hate to see them leave.
I'm still thinking of trading my TL for something like that.
You know you have a new local track just past Dripping I think.
http://www.harrishillroad.com/news/archive/
Send us some video if you go!
Are you working at a Porsche shop again?
btw am I right. you are a factory trained Porsche mech?
Some of the Austin locals.
http://www.early911sregistry.org/forum/showthread.php?t=19528
enjoy the hot rod!:cool:

Video of the blue 3.6 RSR shot from my own 3.6 conversion. cat and mouse.
Blue car has a passenger otherwise similar, 2400lbs, wide Hoosiers on both.
Blue car has airport gears for the AX, he's in 5th at end of the short front straight.:)
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The good news is the cv joints passed Mikes test drive.There was a 930 I had that didnt pass.
Mark

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Just threw in some exhaust shots from the two cars.They are bolted to European headers.Muffler is 2.5" and straight through.Very quiet at low revs with no resonance and shreiks above 5k.
Mark

So what would a budget be something like this.

Motor, harnesss, oil cooler and fan: $7k.
Conversion parts $3k. (clutch, cat bypass, muffler, oil cooling, etc?)
Sell my solid 3.2 , harness, fender cooler $5k.

Net cost about $5k if I do most my self?

Or am I low?

I'll let the experts talk specifics and $.

Link to TRE's narrow early car G50/3.6 touring car.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/421749-carrera-backdate-tre.html
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Sorry about that.:(
Mark I'm glad you were in the car to judge the cause of the busted CV.
"me"
Having too much power in a (turbo) 911 was new to me.:D

A 3.6 conversion makes so much sense, that why you've been building/selling 2/3 - 3.6 cars a year since?
Question is what form of street legal 911 will Mark "skid-mark" build over the next 3 months?

Can we please get a better picture of your blue RSR?;)
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Mark "it's both a license plate and a widescreen A/F meter". :D
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Gotta go, too busy to post.SmileWavy
Both 3.6 street cars.
My green and white 3.6 conversion.
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Ted,
Thanks for the info about the track in Dripping Springs. That is only 12 miles from my house!
I plan on checking it out. I would like to get the local Porsche club more involved in racing. I am going to be more involved in the club now that I have the Red Car.
I am a factory trained Porsche tech. I retired from it in 2004.
Chris

that exhaust was ahh pretty interesting, don't our friends in PD get on you about it?

We'll never know;), the destroyed plate is a bit a humor on an otherwise PERFECT 911, from the builder and arguably the best Porsche mech in San Diego.
no bull.

His street muffler set up is the Bullet in the photo above.

Turns out the plate may have protected the bumper paint nicely, by design?
The blue car dominates http://forums.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/pray.gifwith countless Top Times of Day at the San Diego AX events.

Mark was just funning with those of us with the bumper center exit straight pipes.
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Chris, ted = tall Mike, Mark had sent me to look at your black 82? 911 years ago when you opened MOM near Mirage.
Consider a cheapy video camera for the track.

Mark got a photo of the RSR at SOW?
Ride along in the blue RSR.
I think Mark payed $100 for this camera, his camera is about as worthless at the rear plate.:D
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so there is an advantage to center exit?

ok so i might just be an idiot and straying from this conv,but im curious as to why the c4s's back deck looks so much differant than the regular carrera for the 993 generation, is it a differant cooling system , my mechanic has a built 993 motor with a chip straight pipes and some other goodies i cant remember and im kind of trying to get a feel for it

bump - thinking of buying one and curious how mant new ones out there snice 08'

3.6 Conversion
 

twobone,

Find one to drive and give it a try. You will be sold within the first 5 seconds.

My 86 with a 92 964 in it
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