3.6 vario/ or C2Turbo motor into 95 993?

[rattlsnak]

Whats involved with putting a varioram motor into a 95 993 (non varo) car? Im assuming its just using correct dme and harness.?? anything else?

Or What about installing a C2Turbo engine into a 993? Anyone done that?

[Mike Feinstein]

Alright buddy....what gives? You built and sold an awesome RS replica. Now I see an inquiry regarding a motor swap. Did you get your old 993 back? C'mon man....those of us living vicariously through you need details!

[WydRyd]

You can do anything you want. It all comes down to how deep your pockets are

[Porsche Doc]

Hey Man!
I know were you can get a kick ass 3.8 965 Turbo engine?
Hint: Knoxville,TN.

[WydRyd]

LOL! You're such an opportunist

[Joeaksa]

Originally posted by Mike Feinstein
Alright buddy....what gives? You built and sold an awesome RS replica. Now I see an inquiry regarding a motor swap. Did you get your old 993 back? C'mon man....those of us living vicariously through you need details!

Its called withdrawal symptoms!

JoeA

[RarlyL8]

Do you have a couple of motors looking for homes?
I noticed you posted the exact same question on the 914 board --- asking which motor was best used in a 914.

Putting a CIS 930 engine in a 993 seems a bid ..... odd.
I've followed your build-ups these past few years. A varioram 3.6 modded to twin turbo in a 993, now THAT is your style.

[WydRyd]

Ooooo yeh!

Mine too RarlyL8

[MuffinMan]

I debated the exact same thing when I did my swap, and I obviously chose the NA route. I chose the 3.6 Varioram for more low-end torque/no turbo lag, which seemed more appealing for street duty. Also, my resources told me the turbo engine was about 100lbs heavier, which was also a big detraction. Factor the old skool CIS into the equation, and the decision became easier. The advantage of the turbo is the much great power potential, alas my 915 can only take so much power before becoming unreliable, thus negating that advantage to a certain degree.

Of course, you're putting this into a 993, so you have a different set of variables to work with

[Bill Verburg]

You might want to touch base w/ Steve Timmons.

I know that the harnesses are differenent between vram and non, the DME itself is the same for any of the OBD1 versions(55pin), but a US OBD2(88pin) would need a DME that matches the harness and engine.

I also know that Steve has done that type of thing before.

[Sunroof]

Hey Marc.
If you go through with this, you can have my 2.4 as the starter motor!! Who was the lucky one who got the Viper?

Bob

[rattlsnak]

Mike, LOL.!

I am headed in 5 different directions at the moment.
I shouldnt do anything, because Delta just filed for bankruptcy. Thats one of the reasons I sold the RSR. But, as always, I seem to run across deals that ponder my interest. One of them is to put a 993 3.6 into a 914 to make an awesome track car, the other is to put a C2T into a 993. Both of which i could do "reasonably" cheap.

Stay tuned....

Rarly.. Hmmm. Great idea..!

Bob, heres the for sale thread..

F/S, 1972 Green 911 RSR Clone.

[Porsche Doc]

I vote the 914 there the best Porsche for a race car, in my book!
I just got finished with one with a 3.2 in it and we race one in PCA and HSR.
They will kick a 911's BUTT! There a real blast Man!

[rattlsnak]

I know some on this board consider this blasphemy, but this is what I had in mind......

Doc, your motor is awesome, but a little out of my range!!

(It will have ALOT of 911 parts on it!)

[Porsche Doc]

Hey man if you decide to build a 914 give me a yell I have built a bunch of 914-6 GT race cars. I have a bunch of race body work and race stuff.
914s are really my favorite Porsche's. But don't let the 911 guys know!
SeeYa Man!

[rattlsnak]

WOW, I cant believe the 911/anti 914 guys havent chimed in!!

[Speedster94]

hallo
The DME is not the same , you have to swap the DME and The Harness .
Also the V-ram has bgger Valves and stronger Rods , but the weight penalty is 12 KG about 30 Pounds . I would go the V-ram route , the Turbo takes about double the Gas and maintenance Cost .
harald

[Bill Verburg]

Originally posted by Speedster94
hallo
The DME is not the same , you have to swap the DME and The Harness .
Also the V-ram has bgger Valves and stronger Rods , but the weight penalty is 12 KG about 30 Pounds . I would go the V-ram route , the Turbo takes about double the Gas and maintenance Cost .
harald

Unfortunately I have to disagree w/ this part

The DME is not the same

OBD1 vram DME is interchangable w/ OBD1 non vram. The harness and chip are certainly different.

Here is the '95 pre-vram DME driving my ROW vram.

[rattlsnak]

Bill, which models of vram not OBDII? I thought all vrams were OBDII. (96 and up)

[beepbeep]

If you plan to turbocharge your 3.6 engine later on, Varioram will be obsolete.

C2T engine is a CIS engine (except rare 3.6 singe turbo). Not something I would install in 993.