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I see these red ignition wires in pics of peoples motors and I assume they are somehow home made. Am I correct? I'd like to do a tune up of my 964 before winter and the cost of a set of (twelve!) ignition wires has me staggered. So how do I take my existing connectors and replace the wire? What parts will I need? Where can I get the best raw wire from? I haven't really screwed up anything big on my car in weeks and I'm itchin' to try. Are special tools involved? I understand the wire somehow "screws" into the connectors - but I'd like to have more of a clue before I go tearing apart my existing (expensive) wires.
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I made a set for my Ferrari by first buying a set of pre-made ignition wires (red) from Taylor wires. Then I used a crimper to crimp on the connector after cutting wires to the correct length.
For the Porsche, I opted to buy a ready made set in Red from a well known supplier. I thought it was too hard to remove the old connectors and reuse them. And buying new set of connectors would cost just the same amount of money as a new set of wires.
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I got a set of magnecor 8mm for my 911 and cut it and installed the end connectors myself.
Doing it this way came out much cheaper. |
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I just recently did this on my RSR clone. I used solid core wire from Moroso, crimp on clips from NAPA and Porsche OEM plug connectors. Very simple and easy.
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Okay, I'm game. I checked Summit Racing and they sell raw ignition wire in sizes from 7mm to 10.4mm. It seems to range in price from just over a dollar per foot to big $$$. Either way, if all I need is the wire and some crimp connectors, then making wires will be MUCH cheaper than buying a whole new set. So what do I need to know? Is 10.4mm wire worth the price? Are some brands or features better than others?
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I think the stock is 7 mm, why go bigger?
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8mm will be fine with a stock ignition system, anything much larger is a pain to get in the cap.
Invest in a nice set of terminal crimpers. Does the job faster and better, and will pay for themselves if you make a few wire sets for other cars. Win |
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once you add new plug connectors to the picture, @ $20 each, you don't save a bundle, just a bit.
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You can reuse the plug connectors if you really need to save $$$. I don't know what the lifespan of them is, though, and whether or not that is a good idea. I have reused them (years ago) when I just did not have the money for a complete set and the car ran fine, but the next time I replace the wires I bought a pre-assembled set.
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they need to be checked for proper resistance with an ohmmeter, usually around 3K ohm. occasionally they get a pinhole burned thru the casing which can spark to ground.
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There is a great Beru PDF booklet that demonstrates the construction steps and details of the M3 threaded stud used on Mercedes and Porsche wires available for download here:
http://www.beru.com/download/produkte/stecker-TI05_e.pdf It is 2.2 MB, and a rather painful download at 28.8 bps from a hospital room dial-up line ... compared to DSL! If your ignition cables are putting on a 'light show' at night or in a darkened garage ... it is time to replace the wire between the replaceable connectors!
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Warren - I hope you are doing ok (?)
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Nice link Warren, hope your doing OK!? For hospital money, dial-up is a crime
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So which part no.'s are correct for Porsche on that .pdf file?
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