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Carrera Cruise Control Servo Delete Question

Has anyone out there deleted the cruise control servo from their Carrera? I no longer desire cruise control in my Carrera and would like to remove all of the cruise control associated components (the servo being one of these) which no longer actively participate in enhancing my driving pleasure.

Are there additional parts then necessary (either standard or custom) in order to be able to use just the throttle cable?

Any insight on this would be most helpful!

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Old 10-01-2005, 07:32 AM
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Nine9six,

I've got the Bentley manual. It's perfect for explaining how to remove the servo, etc. Unfortunately it does not detail for example what things look like where the servo meets the rear firewall. I suspect if there is going to be a problem, it will be here. Hence one cannot infer what additional parts would be necessary to support simply the throttle cable itself with no servo.

This may come down to one of those quirky things that there is nil in the information department. From what I've seen to date, folks delete their cruise control but keep the servo. As a result, it may then be necessary for me to remove it and have a look see.

The only problem with the "take it apart and have a look see" approach is that it is usually accompanyed by the ever so common "well since I'm in there....". Couple this with my present state of mind "If it isn't enhancing my driving pleasure, it's got to go!" and well there could be problems.


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If it is anything like my '79 SC it is a simple delete. One wire, one vacuum line, One throttle cable, and two bolts holding the servo in place. I think thats right it was 6 months ago when i took it off and I'm getting old but, there were no real surprises in there.
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Yep, you are most correct! Thanks! That was tit to delete! So long component which doesn't enhance my driving pleasure!

My heightened caution about this delete was that I was thinking that the servo was in series with the throttle cable. Thus once removed how does one connect the throttle cable to the cable going to the throttle body. This however is not the case. The throttle cable goes independently to the throttle body.

Now to go after the servo's other non-contributing compadres, the cruise control electronics and control level.

Thanks again!

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Carlton, Did your cruise work prior to deleting it? Kind of an odd contraption on an otherwise barebones 911 but, I do enjoy having cruise on other vehicles. Did the cruise function well on these cars when it did function? Mine has never worked so i wasn't sure if it was worth reviving or not. Glad it came off with no other issues for you.

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I would be happy to take your parts. I am trying to return mine to stock and don't have the cables in the engine compartment other than the servo.
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Wilke3169,

Yes it worked absolutely fine. It was kind of cool controling the throttle using my hands instead of foot. The cool factor however wore off quickly after one trip.

I do use cruise control in my other cars. However for for the Porsche, I never use it. So as part of my quest to create a version of the '84 which I feel Porsche should have offered, the Carrara EDP, I removed the servo and electronics. I was not successful in removing the control lever. It looks like I will need to pull the steering wheel for that one. Save it for another day.

I can tell you though that during the delete/removal of the servo, the two vaccuum lines to/from the servo essentially crumbled to pieces. But that is to be expected as I am certain the hoses were originals. I have also noticed that the copper tube line from which the servo obtains its vacuum, has several rubber couplers which are cracked. Since it and other systems requiring vacuum work, the cracking has not created a loss of vacuum issue to date, however I am sure that further messing around in my engine compartment is going to require replacement of the rubber couplings.


DonMo, the parts are certainly available. PM me if you are interested. As I mentioned above, cruise control was functional prior to yesterdays delete fest. Thus I presume that both the servo and the electronics are still functional.


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Glad it worked out for you Carlton. I guess that was my next post was to ask if it was available. Snooze you lose I guess. If it doesnt work out with Donmo let me know.

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i am planning on pulling my entire cruise system tomorrow, nice to see there shouldn't be any unexpected quirks.
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More klugged 911s with future reduced resale value.

Why not remove the:

1. clock - Why would a Porsche driver need to tell time? Most people wear a watch, right?
2. heater - Real men who drive Porsches don't need heat.
3. windshield wipers - Porsche owners NEVER drive their cars in the rain anyway.
4. A/C system - Most Porsche owners always drive with the windows down because
it looks cool (and feels that way too).
5. rear seats - No one can really fit back there anyway.

In the future most Porsches will be used as only track cars, right? So who will want the
above items anyway?
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shameless advertisement here - if anyone else has a working cruise control brain, I'd like to buy it (1984 model). Mine has vacuum servo, not electric. Thanks
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Quote:
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More klugged 911s with future reduced resale value.

Why not remove the:

1. clock - Why would a Porsche driver need to tell time? Most people wear a watch, right?
2. heater - Real men who drive Porsches don't need heat.
3. windshield wipers - Porsche owners NEVER drive their cars in the rain anyway.
4. A/C system - Most Porsche owners always drive with the windows down because
it looks cool (and feels that way too).
5. rear seats - No one can really fit back there anyway.

In the future most Porsches will be used as only track cars, right? So who will want the
above items anyway?

Rather a meager and unimaginative list don't you think, if we are going to set Dr. Porsche, not to mention Les Kelley, spinning in their respective graves?

What about:

Floor mats, sun visors, radio, speakers, carpets, sound proofing, inner door panels, console, bumper pads, bumper shocks, air cleaner, windshield washer bottle, trunk carpet, sun roof, and for the really hard core, substitution of plastic fenders, doors, windows, bumpers, trunk and engine covers, removal of lower dash, drip rails, catalytic converters (let's piss off Al Gore while we're at it) etc., etc. Hey, we could even "chip" it. None of which the factory would ever have done.

I mean, if the overweening reason for buying a Porsche is to maintain its trade-in value (after all, cars are the preferred investment instrument, aren't they?), there's so much more to be done in the opposite direction.

Perhaps we can inspire a whole new "Volstead Act".

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