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Long idle time...Poor performance
Does anyone have an opinion as to what happened here?
I kept the engine running at idle on the '87 Carrera for about 30-40 minutes while doing several small maintenence items (e.g., checking and filling the oil, checking the spark plug wires, just listening to the engine, etc.). When a took it for a spin, the car ran very rough with terrible acceleration. Absolutely lost the now familiar power band surge above 3500 rpm. Felt as if I was trying to pull out a tree stump. Panic and depression immediately set in. When I started it up about 4 hours later, there was a big cloud of white smoke, but the car ran as if nothing happened. At the moment, I feel like a lucky knucklehead.
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Your owners manual tells you to avoid idling your 911 since it's has dry sump oiling.
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Live and learn, man. Consider yourself a wiser Porsche owner.
I see a lot of guys do this on our runs and I just shake my head. Don't people read the manual? Porsche advises against this in plain language. |
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Perhaps you fouled your plugs with all that idling. The white smoke was it burning off. The car was fine after the "Italian tune-up."
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I let my car idle (10 minutes) to dry off the engine (per instructions on the can) at the car wash last week. I had problems a few blocks away - thought it was moisture under the distributor cap (found some), and also cleaned off a burr on the fuel pump relay.
I did not think until now that it could of been anything else. Live and learn.
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Don't know if this is an urban legend, but I've heard that idling for extended periods of time causes increased camshaft wear. It is also wasteful, environmentally irresponsible, and , in some places, illegal.
BTW, why hasn't "Italian tuneup" joined the ranks of politically incorrect terms that several posters have taken offence to?
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Thanks for the replies, guys!
I'm still not sure exactly what goes wrong when the engine idles too long with a dry sump oiling system--but I do know never to do it again. I'll check the plugs for fouling when I adjust the valves and change the oil next weekend.
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Thanks for the replies.
Still not sure what goes wrong when an engine with a dry sump oiling system idles too long, but I do know it will never happen again. I'll see if I fouled the plugs when I adjust the valves and change the oil next weekend. Have no idea if "Italian tune up" is PC or non-PC, but it certainly got the Carrera back into good running order.
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Well, besides possibly fouling the plugs (which is probably what happened to your engine), I've read that these engines apparently don't lube the cams very well at idle speeds.
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