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favrok01 03-20-2006 09:17 AM

i think i have a better explanation for the people who are experts of how the 915 tranny works. becouse of my monkying round with the 5th to revers position i somehow have goten revers in a position where it has taken the place of neutral. becouse of this everything to the right (or left) depending how you look at it is unavailable becouse you cant just move the shift from revers to another gear.

so if 5th works becouse it is above reverse and reverse is now neutral how do you get it out of that gate on to the other side which will fix the whole thing?

and i will never EVER fool with playing with the 5th to reverse lockout again its there for a reason somehow i sliped passed it when i was trying out the new short shift.

Oh Haha 03-20-2006 11:08 AM

Did you try pushing the coupler and shift rod "into" the trans while trying to turn it? Think about how the shifter works and you'll undersrtand what I mean. You will feel notches as the rod is turned. Those are the gears.
I still don't think you have serious problem.
Do you have a cordless phone you can take to the garage? If so, PM me your freakin' phone number and I will call tonight. This is starting to drive ME nuts because I can't figure it out.

favrok01 03-20-2006 11:48 AM

driving you nuts??? Try fiddling with a steel pole for 6 hrs and not bieng able to drive something that worked perfectly fine before you messed with it.

Motorhead-45 03-20-2006 03:52 PM

I've been thinking about this a bit....I'm going to attach two pictures borrowed from other posts on this board...the first shows the reverse and 5th gear setup which is in the nose. If you look closely at the right lower portion of the picture you will see the tang on the shift rod that rolls over and engages with the reverse/5th selecter. Up/forward would be reverse and down/back should be 5th if I remember correctly. Ignore the green arrow...this was a borrowed picture.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1142901839.jpg

The second picture shows the next section of the transmission which contains the 1/2 and 3/4 stacks. If you look at second photo you will see where the shift shaft (on the right) continues down into this area. I suspect you may somehow have dislodged the bar which interlocks with the shift rod on the left(excuse my technical ignorance for it's exact name) and it is now binding the shifter and preventing you from leaving the reverse/5th gate. I believe if you drain the tranny and then pull the inspection cover off (4 nuts holding it on) the bottom you can see this area. Take a look and see if that bar is where it is supposed to be.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1142902128.jpg


This shouldn't take but a few minutes to check and I believe you can probably work this back into place if indeed it has become disconnected.

Oh Haha 03-20-2006 04:14 PM

Kevin(favrok) called me tonight and we talked about what happened. He was going to take the inspection cover off the trans tonight and take a peek. I think this is where the problem lie, based on what he told me hi did. The poor guy has to work outside in the rain. Man, that sucks but he can't even drive the car to a friend's garage.

Motorhead-45 03-20-2006 04:19 PM

He may actually be in several gears! If that bar is out of place it's possible that he has selected at least one gear in the 1-4 area and either getting 5th or reverse all at the same time! Hopefully he finds this to be the problem as it's a no cost fix other than a few cuss words, a few scraped knuckles, a screwdriver, a flashlight and a gasket or some Permatex!

favrok01 03-20-2006 05:24 PM

OK guys was hoping to give good news but nope.....................

I tried to get the cover off but it is so sealed with supper pink $hit I cant get it off.

All screws off hammering chiseling prying it ain't comin off for me.

I don't know what the guys at euro works used to seal this thing but it ain't coming off.

So heat cranked up to 90 out of wet clothes washing wet grease Off my body......cursing the whole way............

Oh Haha 03-20-2006 06:24 PM

You guys think the shift forks are stuck and that's why the cover won't come off?

Motorhead-45 03-21-2006 02:32 AM

I wouldn't think the linkage would stop you from pulling the inspection plate. You should at least be able to get it loose. Keep in mind there is a two locating pins on the cover that won't allow any side to side movement but you should be able to tap it on the sides and get it to break the seal. There should only be a paper gasket behind this cover with possibly some copper gasket sealer...what you describe sounds like someone sealed it with JB Weld or something else that is meant to be permanent!

Yet a few more borrowed pictures from the infamous "Rcecale" transmission rebuild thread.....



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1142940677.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1142940690.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1142940705.jpg

favrok01 03-21-2006 03:33 AM

would have been nice to get it to that point i am sure i could have put everything straight once i got it off.

I hammered and dented the **** out of that aluminium piece and no the inside isnt bound up. i got in the car and moved the shifter by hand so it would be sort of free..... unless i get ti towed i am not driving that bit% till next week.

Oh Haha 03-21-2006 03:42 AM

Someone needs to drive over and help this guy out!

What's NC? About 8 hours from Michigan?:)

favrok01 03-21-2006 03:48 AM

oh haha (wayne) i am not stressing it this is par for the cource.

when i get back from my trip on moday that afternoon i will get someone to get in the car and jiggle the shift while i hammer the **** out of that cover (and i wil do that only if its dry and over 55).

Motorhead-45 03-21-2006 04:09 AM

Maybe use a little heat from a propane torch to weaken whatever sealant is holding that cover on? Too much hammering and you are gonna break something!.....and "something" usually isn't cheap!

Jon Merck 03-21-2006 05:25 AM

Kevin, Call when you get back and I'll stop by and help you out.

favrok01 03-21-2006 07:04 AM

See........a relatively close fellow pelican to the rescue.

To all other pelicans now you can relax bird station 034 has reported.

Oh Haha 03-21-2006 10:53 AM

Excellent!!
Please let us know what the outcome is. Even my wife is curious as to the problem. (She has endured me blathering on about it all weekend as I thought out loud.)

favrok01 03-23-2006 04:37 AM

was going to take picture but didnt get to it.... seems when i got home my car was bleeding blue blood.

some how the cover i beat half to death has come loose a bit to leak swepco...

I didnt put the 4 bolts back on tight just on enough so i wouldnt loose them...
FSTNBLK
do you have any spare swepco????

Motorhead-45 03-23-2006 04:45 AM

You do know that if you pull that cover without first draining the transmission fluid you are going to get the entire volume of lubricant (about 3 quarts) out that hole all at once right?

Just an FYI but my experience has been that floor dry doesn't pick up Swepco very well!

favrok01 03-23-2006 05:37 AM

ahhhh pressure washer will due just fine if i need it.

i have the plug purchased here to drain it but it wont come out either.
#1 it is a shallow hole.
#2 the mechanic cranked it down good and it wont come loose.

favrok01 03-23-2006 05:38 AM

What is a good way to drain it????


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