well finally started the install this morning

[david.avery]

Yeah, totally agree, you want to take the air from the cold side of the car, not where all the heat lives.

The way it's setup on my car is a pain for maintenance, but it does work. I would love another bend to get it out of the way, but I don't think you want to make all these intake pipes longer than they have to be.

[mb911]

Yeah maybe I will run up through the side sheet metal. I needed some input before are start cutting up my sheet metal. My curent set up was to just keep it clean for testing

[jbrinkley]

hole saw bits are out back, standing by

[david.avery]

My poor tin I had to actually cut it in two pieces and "pie plate" it back to close it up. Was not too much fun, but it took a couple of hours to get it right. I wound up using an air nibbler to make the swoopy cuts needed to both pieces.

[mb911]

Yeah the turbo itself sits somewhat high so that it does not hang down below the valance(the piping) so I will be doing some creative sheet metal work. luckily with my background in avaition sheet metal it should be not to bad.

[tbitz]

Before moving the intake to the engine bay, I would do some experimenting to determine air temperatures.

I think when the car is moving the air temperature would be cooler where you have it now instead of in the engine bay.

[greglepore]

Agreed that the tin was a bear to cut, in retrospect it would have been better to cut it with the tin off of the motor, mine is a little hacked.

[mb911]

Originally posted by tbitz
Before moving the intake to the engine bay, I would do some experimenting to determine air temperatures.

I think when the car is moving the air temperature would be cooler where you have it now instead of in the engine bay.

I thought about that but I am mostly concerned about water entering it if I get caught in the rain.. What do you think??

[RarlyL8]

Nice project!
As far as the air filter is concerned, at that angle water would never get far. Factor in the heat of the turbo housing and I'd say it's not an issue. It's not the coolest place but it may be acceptable. Try it for a while and decide for yourself before spending any more time on fab work.

[mb911]

my time is somewhat free for my stuff since this is in the good of the company. I know the hondo tuners allot of times run nothing on the turbo inlets at all.

rarley8 as per our conversation a while back. it was worth it and you were right I am still smiling/ till the tranny breaks

I am thinking kit minded so again may do something up the side of the engine and sheet metal and make it clean

[david.avery]

If you can, provide a new piece of powder coated tin (complete with a union on both sides) would make it real easy to install!

[jbrinkley]

check out the double bends in this thread BOV/WG connection with 3.2 intake

[safe]

A little water in the intake will only cool it so you can charge more
But I think it will get dirty fast sitting under the car.

[mb911]

well I now have the wideband hooked up and will be logging with that for a few days. I will resume the project monday. I need to finish up the air intake, and the sheet metal work and thats about it

[mb911]

Update goes to prelim dyno work on next tuesday (try to establish a base line) Hope to get it figured out by then

[mb911]

ok just got back from establishing base line. we did just a series of pulls to get afr number etc. Did one little pull at 3000 rpm with 2 psi I am pulling 150 hp at the wheels That seems very good. We go back next week to do some tuning and see what we can get. The problem benefit is that It is a buddy shop so he needs to make money as well as do favors so thats why it will be broken up tunning and dyno runs. But this is very promising.

[JK-81SC]

I did a search of dyno results for 3.0 engines. At 3000 rpm one dyno graph showed about 83 HP at the wheels for a stock 3.0 with backdated exhaust and Triad muffler.

I'd say you're doing very well!

[mb911]

I Was happy now we will start tuning and it should hopefully be at our projected 350-380 with an intercooler. I plan to change intakes to the 3.2 setup if the evil bay purchase does not fall through. Then we can use a modified 3.2 IC. This should scream. Probably going to need a new clutch shortly

[jpahemi]

Ben:
Can the CV's take the torque?
j.p.

[jbrinkley]

good AFR's Ben?