well finally started the install this morning

[mb911]

Ok maybe you misunderstood but ssis are headers with heat so they get eaqul length flow. But enough of this pissing match it is wasting eachother time it is what it is and that is all. My car is not as high performance and never will be.



NOW back on topic look what just showed up at the shop!!!!!!!!! This should help But will have to increase boost pressure for the pressure loss through it. I think it will work well..

[SLO-BOB]

Originally posted by YermanCars
Honestly, The only people who should be commenting are the people who own a turbo 911 of any sort, whether it is a conversion or not.

I have experience in this field and what I said, was and opinion of mine.

You are as far removed from a system like Ben is designing as a non-turbo owner like me is-but in the opposite direction. I have said this about you before-your frame of reference is completely different for turbocharging than the average (me) guys. That's neither compliment nor insult, just opinion. And speaking of opinions, one can opine w/o insulting. Nuff said on that.

As for the rest of us who don't have 498 rwhp and countless sleepless nights invested, I feel we have the right to contribute to discussions like these from a future client perspective.

[JeremyD]

Bob - love your new car
Ben - Looks great - everything
Yerman - You could probably teach a class on Turbo charging a 911 - why not offer some helpful suggestions instead of the alternative. - Please.

For the record - I have seen some silly numbers come out of early turbos - the 3.0 version - and I have seen some silly numbers come out of 2.5l 4 cylinders too.

Lots of possibilities out there. I'd also recommend that anybody who is interested in turbocharging anything should pick up the book Maximum Boost by Corky Bell. - It's a good read in terms almost everybody can understand.

[YermanCars]

Originally posted by mb911
Ok maybe you misunderstood but ssis are headers with heat so they get eaqul length flow. But enough of this pissing match it is wasting eachother time it is what it is and that is all. My car is not as high performance and never will be.



NOW back on topic look what just showed up at the shop!!!!!!!!! This should help But will have to increase boost pressure for the pressure loss through it. I think it will work well..

Oh Brother, The EBAYcooler!!!

Ben, don't put that on your car, you may blow something.

[YermanCars]

Originally posted by JeremyD
Bob - love your new car
Ben - Looks great - everything
Yerman - You could probably teach a class on Turbo charging a 911 - why not offer some helpful suggestions instead of the alternative. - Please.

For the record - I have seen some silly numbers come out of early turbos - the 3.0 version - and I have seen some silly numbers come out of 2.5l 4 cylinders too.

Lots of possibilities out there. I'd also recommend that anybody who is interested in turbocharging anything should pick up the book Maximum Boost by Corky Bell. - It's a good read in terms almost everybody can understand.

JeremyD, I can't agree w/ you more, about the book.

I responded to many questions over the years and it didn't make me money, why should I help someone trying to make money on my experience.

2.3l 4 cylinder. http://media.ams-evo8.com/videos/floridaturbo/FloridaTurbo.wmv

I teach cooking classes, not Porsche turbo 101.

I only know what I have experienced.

[JeremyD]

I am very familiar with AMS tuned and the evo8 - maybe the best prepared EVO in the country - not asking for you to give away secrets

You are a good guy - I've seen some of the advice you have given in the past and it's been on the money.

Bens a good guy too - just trying to help out the guys that can't afford the promotive set up - and maybe need a little less boost - Of course boost is like crack - before long they will all be figuring out how to get more - and that is where I think a system like what promotive has comes into play.

It's like the $8,000 911 - it'll be a $20,000 car before too long, just depends on how you want to spend it...

[mb911]

Originally posted by YermanCars
Oh Brother, The EBAYcooler!!!

Ben, don't put that on your car, you may blow something.

Very curious And I am serious not trying to be condesending or rude why would you say that?? I am curious. I plan on modifing this as it was cheap then I will have a basis to buy cores off of and then fab my own. Is it really poor quality? The overall outside quality looks good. but I have no reference other then mocking this up

[YermanCars]

Originally posted by mb911
Very curious And I am serious not trying to be condesending or rude why would you say that?? I am curious. I plan on modifing this as it was cheap then I will have a basis to buy cores off of and then fab my own. Is it really poor quality? The overall outside quality looks good. but I have no reference other then mocking this up

You, Just have to find out for yourself.

It's all part of the r&d.

[mb911]

nice,

I will figure it out its not rocket science! Just aluminum and its the bar style core

Anyhow the Ic looks to be well built probably the same cores as used in the more expensive models just this is probably made overseas. I am going to go over it with a bore scop and check out the inside and then pressure test it but it should work well.

[quattrorunner]

Yerman, I don't know you at all but must say I'm not impressed with you other than your car rocks. If your not interested in helping on this issue (as you mentioned), I would suggest not participating at all. My mom told me when I was young not to say anything if I couldn't say anything nice (or at least constructive).
In short, I'm finished with you interupting this great thread. GET OUT!
Seriously, get out of the participation with this topic.
No offense, I just think you acting like a dic.

[aigel]

Originally posted by YermanCars
You, Just have to find out for yourself.

It's all part of the r&d.

I agree, you don't have to give away your knowledge. But then why participate? Why be a tease with half info that does nobody any good?

Take care,

George

[jbrinkley]

so you post to say you've been there, done that, but wouldn't help a brother out?
thanks for letting us all know you know more but wouldn't share.
you're wasting space then.

[87coupe]

Good work Ben.

If it's not completely obvious to you already (I'm sure it is), the only people who seem to find issue with your approach are the ones who have affiliation with a company that offers turbo kits. Seems to me that they need to figure out a kit that can be sold in the same intended price range as yours before they start taking shots at it.

Constructive criticism is one thing, but to make negative comments and then not be willing to substantiate those comments is pretty low class if you ask me.

[YermanCars]

Originally posted by jbrinkley
so you post to say you've been there, done that, but wouldn't help a brother out?
thanks for letting us all know you know more but wouldn't share.
you're wasting space then.

You guys can say whatever you want.

But when the SH$# hits the fan, I won't be near.

[quattrorunner]

Your not near anyway.

[quattrorunner]

If you cared like you want us to think you do, you would offer insight.

[87coupe]

FUD

Fear, uncertainty and doubt
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Fear, uncertainty, and doubt (FUD) is a sales or marketing strategy of disseminating negative (and vague) information on a competitor's product. The term originated to describe misinformation tactics in the computer hardware industry and has since been used more broadly. FUD is a manifestation of the appeal to fear.

FUD has also come to mean frustrate, undermine and demoralize.

[jbrinkley]

don't worry, when the **** hits the fan, you're the last person I'd look to

[YermanCars]

Yeah!! I made your guy's sh*& list.

[quattrorunner]

Just tell me how to get 489 rwhp cheep and your off