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Another jacking question. I searched!

A simple question. I could not find a simple answer. I want to put my car up on stands to flush the brakes. I have a jack pad, floor jack and stands. If I am to jack up the car using the jack pad, in what sequence should I put the car on stands? i.e. two front first, two back first, two on one side first, one corner at a time? Or should I just do one corner at a time, i.e. jack stand under one corner of car at a time?

The car is lowered and I can't get my jack under the 4 jack points, unless I drive up on some wood or something? Darn, I wish I had a hoist.

Thanks,Lawrence

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Do one side then the other, use wood blocks in the saddles of the jack stands, orient then transversly to allow the angles to be generated side to side
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The 911 is by far the hardest car to get up on stands that I have ever owned especially if it is low. I use the jacking pad in the factory hole in the rocker panel and bring one side high enough to get a stand under the rear torsion bar housing and place another stand under the control arm forward mount. Then go to the other side. Depending on how high you got one side you may or may not have the opposite front wheel already off the ground. It is the same procedure.

It is definately a balancing act that gets even more tricky when you need to lift it higher for an eng. drop or something. 2 jacks help as well as having someone with you to keep an eye on things as it goes up.

Just go slow!
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I was thinking of getting one side up first and then the other but was worried about the car sliding off the jack stands when going to the other side. I am thinking that it is important to make sure the wheels of my jack move smoothly to correct for any angle that might be created on the jack stand side. I am scared *****less about the car falling off the stands.

A friend of mine suggested just lifting one wheel off the ground, bleeding, then dropping, lifting another, bleeding, etc. Is this safer?

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Lawrence

As above but . . .

Use the jack pad in the rocker hole. Jack one side up & slide a stand under the inner torsion bar tube on one rear - make sure you get it high enough so the wheel clears. Move jack to other side & do the same. Now you have the rear up. Then move to the front. Since you are nose down, you have to play a bit. You have 2 possible jack points. The torsion cover at the front (except this is where you want the jack stand) or the back of the torsion housing - where the front height adjustment is & watch you don't jack on the front pan (?) cover. Use wood so you don't mess up the bolt. Jack one side up high enough & you can slide both jack stands on each of the front covers. Reverse to drop.

It works for me . . .

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Thank Ian. I will give it a shot this weekend.

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Do one side then the other, use wood blocks in the saddles of the jack stands, orient then transversly to allow the angles to be generated side to side
Bill,

Do you mean a block of wood side to side, ie left to right, under the torsion bar covers?

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If you have a chin spoiler, it is almost impossible to get under the front after the back was jacked up. (It was for me at least but my ride height is just a little lower than NA spec) I did the front first and then the back.
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Mine was very much lower than euro height. The chin spoiler prevented all access to the front with the floor jack. I put down 2x8 boards about 3 feet long at the front wheels. I then put 1.5 inch boards crosswise under the 2x8s about 2.5 feet in front of the wheels. This formed a mild ramp with only a 1.5 inch lip to get the tires over. I ran up on the 2x8s almost to the cross board. Then I lifted the rear at the engine with the jack (which thankfully fit under the car in the rear) I put stands under the torsion bar caps at the rear and let the car down onto them. I then went back to the front and could get the floor jack under the front to the tow loops and pick up the front. Since the back was sitting on the jack stands the front went up almost flat and I could place the front jack stands. This dance was just another reason I lifted my car back to euro height. ;-)
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You guys got me thinking . . .

You're right. I have to put a 3" brick under the wheel for the jack to fit under the spoiler.

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Oh oh. I sense a flashback to the "jack under the engine" thread is about to be unleashed.

Folks, if your're thinking about it, please do a search first before we embark on a thread with 500 responses.

There. I started it.

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Guys,
I think you are over thinking the problem.

For Lawrence, he only needs to raise the car enough to get the wheels off to access the barake bleeders. This is not all that high.

When I do mine, I lift one side, support it at the rear torsion bar tubes and the control arm forward mount. Be sure the two stands are stable and move to the other side and do the same. Once the car is up, remove wheels and proceed.

If he wants to go higher, some of the heroic ways outlined above may be more prudent.

My $0.02
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I usually jack from under the engine case and place the stands under the torsion bar covers in the rear. Then jack the car from drivers side right behind the wheel well ( the whole front end then comes up together) then place the jack stands under the front T bar covers as well.
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You can support on the suspension pieces or the corners of the tub
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I do one corner at a time. Gives me reason to stay longer out in the garage and time to down a couple of cold lagers.
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Sorry to start up another thread on jacking but I just wanted to have a more basic "jacking for dummies" kind of answer.

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