Here goes...1st Engine Drop

[Dan in Pasadena]

Glen, No expert here but it is my understanding that a reground flywheel will make sure you have none of the chattering that sometimes happens. I had mine done when my clutch was done. I think it was only $45, but that was the price to my mechanic; probably wouldn't be that cheap walking in off the street.

[Scott R]

I've done it both ways, but when it comes to my personal car I try and resurface if the flywheel is in spec. You definitely get a cleaner smoother clutch feel, of course it could all be in my head.

My last Porsche clutch was one of the rubber centered hockey puck clutches and it came apart and rubber melted all over the everything, but mainly the flywheel, so I had to resurface that one.

[hcoles]

I resurfaced...they take metal off two surfaces to keep the pressure plate pushing with the same force... I think the machinist took 0.005" off and it cleaned completely up. I put a steel spring clutch back in...
The two times I pulled the engine I pulled the tranny with....from most all accounts looks like pulling together is the thing to do...certainly I wouldn't pull separately... too many cons...almost no pros.
-Henry
89 911 3.2

[TERRIBLEHONDO]

Glen, Here is an item number 170041901811 clutch pp and throw out bearing by sachs price seems good I do not know about quality. Whenever I use to do clutches on US cars you had to turn flywheel or risk slippage. Trany looks good I am going to pressure clean my engine and trany also what pressure did you run? Was sp2 the name of the yellow degreaser? I do not know if I have a harbor freight around here so I just want to match the right product. I dropped the motor yesterday. No problems I thought it would take more time. You saved me alot of time I would have spent on the clutch release lever thanks. I will show how nasty mine looks. If I can figure out how you attach photos to this site.

[DaddyGlenn]

Yesterday, I blasted the engine with the pressure washer and started to tear off the CIS and remaining tin. After it was stripped, the remaining clean up doesn't look that bad.


I also found a reasonable clutch kit and ordered that. This week I'll concentrate on cleaning the engine.

[DaddyGlenn]

The Yellow degreaser is just called "heavy duty degreaser" check Harbor Freight's web site for a location near you. That's how I found mine. The stuff is way strong. even diluted 20:1 it does a real job on grease.

My pressure washer is a little electric thing that only has two settings, "on" and "off." I would recommend using the lowest pressure that will do the job. the degreaser and a bit of pre-scrubbing should help too.

To upload pictures, first use the "post Reply" button instead of the "quick reply." Below the box where you type your message is a section for uploading pictures.

Hope this helps.

[TERRIBLEHONDO]

Looks good I did find the harbor freight on the web yesterday about 45 minuts north so I will get there today or tomorrow. What clutch did you get? What are your plans for the cis?

[DaddyGlenn]

I found a Sachs "OEM" kit on eBay for $340. That's about $200 cheaper than the next best price I found. I know the risk that's why I put it on my AmEx.

The CIS will just get a good cleaning. The engine ran great when I pulled it. Hopefully, it will run the same or better after this adventure.

P.S. on the degreaser.... wear gloves, it eats skin fairly well, too.

[Scott R]

Originally posted by DaddyGlenn
I found a Sachs "OEM" kit on eBay for $340. That's about $200 cheaper than the next best price I found. I know the risk that's why I put it on my AmEx.

The CIS will just get a good cleaning. The engine ran great when I pulled it. Hopefully, it will run the same or better after this adventure.

P.S. on the degreaser.... wear gloves, it eats skin fairly well, too.

I'm looking at that clutch kit as well, I'm so far into it money wise I need to save anywhere I can. I may need a second mortgage to pay off the machine shop.

[TERRIBLEHONDO]

Was that the clutch set up that I sent you the number on? Well let me know how it works for you. I had not planned on doing the clutch at this time as mine shifts fine.[img]http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads9/dropped+e
ngine1162246022.jpg[/img] Does your high idle work? Mine does not. Since I am in this far I think I am going to replace the intake runners rubber sleeve and all the vaccum lines.

[TERRIBLEHONDO]

I am trying the picture again

[TERRIBLEHONDO]

Not as nice as yours but if I like it as much as I do now I will look into buying a better one.

[DaddyGlenn]

Congrats Terrible! We need to see the obligatory picture of your smiling face sticking up through the engine bay.

The clutch is the same part number you recommended. I'll let everyone know if there are any surprises when it arrives.

Scott - I know what you are talking about money wise. My little project was supposed to be a cleaning and valve adjustment with a budget of a couple hundred bucks. I'm looking at closer to a grand so far.

[DaddyGlenn]

Got to the point where I think I have found everything I need to replace and placed an order with our host. It is amazing how the little dollars add up.

[dweymer]

Glenn, be careful which degreaser you use, some will start the corrosion process on the Mag.

[DaddyGlenn]

Thanks again Donnie. The degreaser I'm using says not to let parts sit in it for more than 5min. I use a spray bottle and spray a 20:1 (20 water, 1 degreaser) scrub a bit then rinse with water. Never more than a minute or two.

I had some nuts and bolts soaking in the degreaser and noticed the aluminum pan started to "etch."

[azasadny]

I used Simple Green and Castrol degreaser, followed by a rinse with water. Hot water really helps to loosen the grease and grime. While I had the engine/tranny out, I also replaced the heater hoses and clamps and cleaned and lubed the heater cables and levers, they were dirty and corroded. Replace all of you vacuum and fuel lines as well as clamps and you'll avoid leaks and possible disaster. Now would be a great time to replace the rear shocks, soundproofing pad and motor mounts if yours are shot like mine were...

[NoEardGoat]

I picked up some degreaser from harbor freight as well, but only found a purple degreaser solution. Probably the EPA friendly (but doesn't do the job 1/2 as good) version. So I am going to use Mineral Spirits (paint thinnner) and soak my parts and scurb away. I will then spray with some dawn soap to carry the dirt away and clean with water and dry with compressed air.

Terrible: we do need to see the official engine drop competed photo with you in the engine bay. I can see your sound pad is in as good as shape as mine (completely deteriorated).

Glenn: let us know how the clutch works out and the quality.

[TERRIBLEHONDO]

okay here is the obligatory picture

Yes the sound pad was shot I have pulled the rest off but the glue still makes it look bad. As Glenn states though all the little parts are really adding up on my project list. As I hit vaccum lines, gas lines and oil lines that are either bad or starting to look bad. I have decided that since I have always loved listening to the high revs the sound pad money will have to go elsewhere. I am not even going to look at the clutch. It was working fine so it will stay as is. Dropping the engine is suprisingly easy so if I have to go back in it is no big deal. I hope it goes back in as easy. Tomorrow I will pull the valve covers, install turbo valve covers,check for any broken studs(leakdown is a max of 5%) so I hope I am good and try and set the valves with the backside method called out in the tech section. It will save me buying the offset feeler guages.

[DaddyGlenn]

You know... I just love those pictures. The joy of ownership is always easy to see on a smiling face sticking out of the engine bay.