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Check out this shifter

While going through the old parts stash, I found his old shifter my friend gave me. It has been modified for some type of gate shifter, I guess. Did the factory do any of these? It is quite old and I am sure he had it for many years.

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Looks factory to me. At least the one in my 77 looks like that one. The tab on the right side is your reverse lockout, the tab on the left is how you know you're in first.
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That is a factory 915 shifter that has had the top plate turned around to use with a 901.

The reverse lockout is now to the left and forward and the new tab on left of the stick engages the tabs of the top plate. The original tab on the right is doing nothing.

No spring gating at all when done this way, I find spring gating more useful than the lockout, so not a great idea in my experience. In order to retain the spring gating and the lockout for 901 use, one would need to cut and re-weld the housing 180 degrees around - not really a great solution given the aftermarket upgrades available.
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Is that the Robotek shifter? Looks similar to me. You didn't say you installed the 901, which would involve turning the clutch actuation in the opposite direction.
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I think that's the Seine systems shifter
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That is a factory 915 shifter that has had the top plate turned around to use with a 901.

The reverse lockout is now to the left and forward and the new tab on left of the stick engages the tabs of the top plate. The original tab on the right is doing nothing.

No spring gating at all when done this way, I find spring gating more useful than the lockout, so not a great idea in my experience. In order to retain the spring gating and the lockout for 901 use, one would need to cut and re-weld the housing 180 degrees around - not really a great solution given the aftermarket upgrades available.
The top plate has been reversed, but the springs and fork are not there making me think he didn't cut the barrel and rotate it (I guess you didn't say it was, so I had to edit this). I did do one like that and it worked great, I part of a Seine Systems kit to finish it off to have spring loading in both directions. That looks to jus have a spare tang welded opposite the factory one. If it were a
Seine, both outboard planes would be "gated."

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It looks like the tab was put on for a Seine but the rest of it is gone.
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The top plate has been reversed, but the springs and fork are not there making me think he didn't cut the barrel and rotate it (I guess you didn't say it was, so I had to edit this). I did do one like that and it worked great, I part of a Seine Systems kit to finish it off to have spring loading in both directions. That looks to jus have a spare tang welded opposite the factory one. If it were a
Seine, both outboard planes would be "gated."
Milt and John,
I was mulling over the photo too and was trying to determine what was done to it. The photo doesn't show the orientation of the shift housing (front or rear relative to the shift lever). Perhaps the shift housing was installed 180º and the lever reinstalled in a normal direction. That would require drilling new mounting holes as the bolt pattern isn't symmetrical.

If only the top carrier plate was rotated 180º, this would place the factory spring guide and springs directly under the existing tabs on the plate. There are two holes on the carrier plate to allow the guide plate to move vertically as the springs compress. Rotated, the holes (missing in photo) would be in the wrong location. It looks like the springs and guide plate are either removed or the guide/alignment provision has been modified.

It also looks like the round rubber buffer below the carrier plate is missing.

John,
Are there two mounting holes on the side of the shift housing? If so, the shift housing might have once been a recipient of our Gate Shift kit. In addition, it looks like a Target-type short shift conversion kit was added. Their kit replaces the lower portion of the lever (pivot hole and ball pivot) with a longer version. This moves the shift lever slightly upward and thus decreases the overlap between the two tabs. The overlap should be more than 1/8".

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Sherwood is correct. They do not have the rubber and they did swap it 180 degrees and cut out the section where the internals go up through the cover. This was done at least ten years ago or longer. It obviously was used quite a bit by the wear on the left lockout.
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Good eye, Sherwood. No buffer, no springs, just a gutted shift housing with a lock out. You better damn well know where 2nd and 4th are. Throw that thing away!

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