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artisticent 02-26-2007 08:16 AM

I am very close to scrapping my steel front 73 fenders and getting fg ones. Mine need a lot of filler and im doing a fg hood and bumpers anyway. Still have to decide. Thanks for moving along on your project at a good pace, it will motivate me. by the way, I have that power window wiring issue in my other car, How did you solve it, what wire goes where. My pass window switch is out coz it wass not working right.
Thanks
Nathan

PcarPhil 02-26-2007 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by artisticent
I am very close to scrapping my steel front 73 fenders and getting fg ones. Mine need a lot of filler and im doing a fg hood and bumpers anyway. Still have to decide. Thanks for moving along on your project at a good pace, it will motivate me. by the way, I have that power window wiring issue in my other car, How did you solve it, what wire goes where. My pass window switch is out coz it wass not working right.
Thanks
Nathan

If you go fiberglass for fenders I recommend either Rennspeed or Getty. I'm not impressed with GT Racing fenders at all (I have them on my RSR roller).

As far as the power window problem - go manual!

wachuko 02-26-2007 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by artisticent
...I have that power window wiring issue in my other car, How did you solve it, what wire goes where. My pass window switch is out coz it wass not working right.
Thanks
Nathan

Search here and you will find a diagram with the correct setup. When I get home I can send you the doc I downloaded from here... but most likely you can find it faster by searching the forum. I do not have it in my work laptop.

wachuko 02-26-2007 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaefer
As far as the power window problem - go manual!
I was under the impression that you get no weight benefit from going with manual windows... I rather have the luxury of electric windows... hate to strech over to open the passenger window when needed.

wachuko 02-26-2007 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaefer
If you go fiberglass for fenders I recommend either Rennspeed or Getty. I'm not impressed with GT Racing fenders at all (I have them on my RSR roller).
Have you seen or worked with Rennspeed or Getty parts?? Any photos? Or you making your comment based on what you have read from other folks?

I am getting ready to order the back parts and need to decide what company to get those from. Thanks.

PcarPhil 02-26-2007 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wachuko
I was under the impression that you get no weight benefit from going with manual windows... I rather have the luxury of electric windows... hate to strech over to open the passenger window when needed.
The weight difference is marginal. I prefer manual windows.

Did RSR's come with power windows?

PcarPhil 02-26-2007 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wachuko
Have you seen or worked with Rennspeed or Getty parts?? Any photos? Or you making your comment based on what you have read from other folks?

I am getting ready to order the back parts and need to decide what company to get those from. Thanks.

I have worked with Rennspeed parts exclusively. If I scrap my GT Racing parts I'll probably still go with Rennspeed though I'm also considering Getty for my widebody longhood.

Click on the SC link in my sig. My Ruf project is all Rennspeed.

Here's a pic from that project:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1172513715.jpg

Jack Olsen 02-26-2007 09:49 AM

Rennspeed:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1142646318.jpg

wachuko 02-26-2007 12:09 PM

Wish I had know when I ordered the front... null point now. Will order the rear setup from Renspeed. Thanks.

Humm... they have the vented rear in 13 and 15... great... something else I need to decide on... :rolleyes:

wachuko 03-01-2007 08:52 PM

Finished doing the headlights... installed the bottom bracket with clip, upper alum bracket, holes for the wiring rubber grommets...

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/update61.jpg

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/update64.jpg

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/update66.jpg

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/update63.jpg

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/update65.jpg

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/update62.jpg

One less thing off the list...

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/update67.jpg

Next are the signal lights in the bumper...

lonewolf 03-01-2007 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jack Olsen
Rennspeed:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1142646318.jpg

that car looks mean, very nice Jack

jhubs 03-02-2007 12:03 PM

Jack, You may have been asked this before on another post, but where did you get the tail lights and clear lens cover to go over them? Rennspeed?

Jerry

Jack Olsen 03-02-2007 02:11 PM

No. Back when I got the 911R assemblies, they weren't available in the same way they are now. Mine were made by a guy in South Africa who had made a set for himself. The AR Concept ones available now are much nicer. I think tremotorsports.com carries them.

I got the lenses through a Pelican member who (at the time) lived in Switzerland. They were an off-the-shelf item at his local parts store. When I broke one more recently, I got it through 'andyjboy' here on Pelican.

And the rear license plate panel is also not Rennspeed. It was a mod popular in the early seventies made by a company called Mitcom.

wachuko 03-04-2007 05:29 PM

Started working with the fiberglass... oohhh boy, what a mess... I had some resin jelly from AutoZone and some of the good stuff from the boat shop. Guess what I started with... you are right, the cheap stuff from AutoZone...I will use the epoxy I got at the boat store for the other side to see how the two compare.

I started by covering with tape the areas that I will build on. So tape over the border of door, and over the side where the bolt clips are. The I brushed a lot of mold wax over the tape and parts closed by. This wax helps keep the fiberglass resin from sticking to stuff it should not...

Looks awful... but got to remember this is my first... three layers of long cloth strips going from top to bottom and a few short strips going from the inside to the fender.

I quickly realize that I made a mistake going with the jelly resin... best to use the liquid stuff... The epoxy resin from the boat store is liquid and the hardener is the one that provides more time to work the cloth... so I expect the other side and the additional build up on this one to go smoother...

Here are some photos:

The materials:

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc02295.jpg

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc02296.jpg

2" wide fiberglass cloth. Better to work with and avoids a lot of cutting...

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc02293.jpg

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc02292.jpg

I told you it was a bit of a mess...

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc02288.jpg


Not using the jelly again... you are supposed to use a brush to apply it to the area before applying the cloth... well... it does not run that smooth over an area that already has wax on it... also dipping the cloth in the jelly... you really have to work the jelly into the cloth... did I said I was not going to use that jelly again?

Anyway... here is the fender with the added material. Once it is dry I will remove the fender and add a couple of layers to make sure that area is strong enough to drill the holes and serve its purpose...

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc02289.jpg

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc02291.jpg

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc02290.jpg

Remember what it looked like... it did not have the fiberglass from the border to where the fender is supposed to bolt to the car.

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc02074_small.jpg

Facey 03-04-2007 05:35 PM

cannot say it enough. your a brave man.

however everything seems to be going VERY well, and soon many ppl will be dreaming about building your car...and you can even help them out by pointing them to this thread

Jeff Alton 03-04-2007 08:36 PM

West System is as good as it gets, continue to use it!

Cheers

wachuko 03-05-2007 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jeff Alton
West System is as good as it gets, continue to use it!

Cheers

Cool. Plan on using it for the other side tonight or tomorrow night. And for the rest of the work with the fiberglass... SmileWavy

UK Caveman 03-05-2007 03:06 PM

Great project! Thanks for sharing your progress with us. One of these days I'll get round to something like this...

Cheers,

David

wachuko 03-10-2007 07:20 AM

Have not been able to do anything... the last few weeks have been extremely busy at work... and the children complain if I am always in the garage... but the new tag arrived! SmileWavy

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1173543592.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1173543622.jpg

disfin 04-04-2007 06:00 AM

Any updates?


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