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Mattcamp 02-12-2007 02:11 PM

Tail or no tail that is the question......
 
Ever since I put the tail on my car it seems to have more body roll in the corners and the front end feels lighter.
Should you have to adjust the suspension after installing a tail?
I thought puting on the tail would be an instant improvement. Now I find myself second-guessing wether I should have put this thing on........What do you think?
Before:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1171321830.jpg

After:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1171321870.jpg

Gene Wilkes 02-12-2007 02:32 PM

OK matt, let's see the front! If you have no front spoiler, you'll have an imbalance in your setup!

KCinBR 02-12-2007 02:35 PM

The general consensus is that if you add a tail you must also add a front spoiler, for aerodynamic reasons that I cant clearly explain.

Front spoiler without tail is OK
Tail without front spoiler is not

It looks good on your car by the way.

Rick V 02-12-2007 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by islandmanpa
OK matt, let's see the front! If you have no front spoiler, you'll have an imbalance in your setup!
X2, you can run a front without the rear but not the other way. Add a chin spoiler and you will be happy

Steve 82SC 02-12-2007 02:42 PM

The air that gets under the front of the car at all times is being accentuated from the rear squat. The spoiler that you need is the rubber chin spoiler. You don't have to do a glass air dam, just the front rubber spoiler.

Steve

Mattcamp 02-12-2007 02:46 PM

Here is the front........

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1171323796.jpg
Don't know if you can see in the pic but I already had the front chin spoiler. I wonder if it would help to be a little lower? There is a good 5" of clearance at the chin.

island911 02-12-2007 02:52 PM

good looking tail.

I'll second lowering the front. . ..and maybe a tad in the rear too.

the 02-12-2007 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mattcamp
There is a good 5" of clearance at the chin.
If you go much lower, you'll need to be careful with parking, or you'll end up with a tattered and bloody chin.

The standard US curb stop height is 4.5 inches.

island911 02-12-2007 03:08 PM

. .and then there are a whole lot of non-standard (higher) curbs.

The simple solution is don't pull so far fwd. --it's not a 4-door pick-up truck.

the 02-12-2007 03:16 PM

there's a lot of higher curbs, but those concrete wheel stop thingys that you see in parking lots are all supposed to be at 4.5 inches, and most are.

I've had cars with fronts at all heights, including my current 911 which is very low up front. It's amazing how better a rubber spoiler will survive over the years at 5 inches than 4.

island911 02-12-2007 03:36 PM

I'm not disagreeing that a rubber spoiler will survive better over the years at 5 inches than 4.

What I'm saying is, our cars don't need to be pulled all the way fwd, in most spots. And, lowering the nose will help his handling issues.

i'll add, pulling fwd, as close as possible, is a tough habit to break. --and those rubber lips can take a few hits and still survive. ;)

Mattcamp 02-12-2007 03:38 PM

I'm not worried about curbs.........just corners. Anyone put a tail on a stock suspension Carrera and noticed a difference with added body-roll?
BTW: Thanks for the positive comments from everyone on the tail.

gtihop 02-12-2007 03:51 PM

I like the look of that- clean and sharp!! What type of tail is it and about how much are they?

Dan in Pasadena 02-12-2007 04:02 PM

Not to hijack but that tail; though nice, isn't a correct tail for your car. I am pretty sure that is a C3 tail. Can anyone confirm?

island911 02-12-2007 04:11 PM

That (minus the second grill) was one of three tails available for the SC. (the best looking imo) - it may have been available in 84.

PeterCarrera84 02-12-2007 04:44 PM

I say tail on !! IMO I have one and at high speeds I think it helps. my 0.02 cents

Scooter 02-12-2007 04:57 PM

That tail was not available in '84, but who cares? It looks good, so go with it. :)

Your car does need to be lowered IMHO.

island911 02-12-2007 04:58 PM

HERE is a good thread outlining available tails for that period.

I bought one a while back for ~$400.

Crap, that was 5+ years ago, and still not installed or painted. --It's red w/ a very good condition rubber lip. ...slightly dusty.:o -4sale

DARISC 02-12-2007 05:09 PM

FWIW, my 82 SC RoW came out of the factory w/the "tea tray" tail that was fitted to the 930 (room for the intercooler). Not as "sleek" as the Carrera tail, but I guess "correct" since it came out of the factory that way.

mede8er 02-12-2007 05:12 PM

Lower your front end.......


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