clutch problem persists

paul saulnier · 03-05-2007, 12:05 PM

I have installed the clutch and pressure plate for my G50 (its a custom job). I have a picture of the edge of the pressure plate showing that the tensioning springs are pinned against the pressure plate on one side and the clutch on the other. The pedal is rock hard and hardly moves the fork. Should there be room for the spring steel to move?

Previously, I suspected the hydraulic system, assuming that the clutch/pressure plate assembly provided by Renegade Hybrids is correct. Maybe it is but this does not look right to me.

cashflyer · 03-05-2007, 12:13 PM

This is definitely a situation where pictures would be of help.

I have only had one vehicle with a hyd clutch, and it was silky smooth.

paul saulnier · 03-05-2007, 12:23 PM

For some reason the picture didn't load. Can I send it to you elsewhere?

Thanks for your time

cashflyer · 03-06-2007, 06:24 AM

Sorry for the delay - the email was trapped by my spam filter.
I have resized the photo to fit within Pelicans size limit.

cashflyer · 03-06-2007, 06:26 AM

Here is a closeup that gives more detail on the clutch issue:

cashflyer · 03-06-2007, 06:30 AM

It sounds to me like:
1) something is not seated properly
2) something is installed incorrectly
3) parts mismatched

[edit: sorry - I guess that's kind of a "no ****" answer.]

BUT... I'm no expert by any stretch. Hopefully a knowledgeable G50 mech will comment.

Have you discussed this with Renegade?

paul saulnier · 03-06-2007, 06:55 AM

Renegade does not understand what what is causing the problem, either. They have asked me to send the clutch, pressur plate, and flywheel back to them for review. I'd like to avoid that hassel (lock tight and all) and the associated delays.

dean · 03-08-2007, 06:06 PM

Who made the PP?

There is supposed to be a relief machined in the PP for the rivet to move into. I can't see if the relief is there.

paul saulnier · 03-09-2007, 03:07 AM

The pp is made by Kennedy (KEP). The relief hole you refer to is there. How much does the fork have to move in order to release the pp?

dean · 03-09-2007, 04:53 AM

Man I don't remember how much it has to move. Maybe .5" or .75".

I had a problem with a KEP PP where they forgot to machine the reliefs and it wouldn't move far enough to release the clutch. It took me a while to figure out what the problem was and send it back. The way I ended up testing it was with the powertrain out of the car. Then I hooked up a powerpak and operated the slave and watched that the PP didn't move enough to release. It sounds like you have a different problem though.

Break the system into parts and make each part work. Then you can eliminate the good parts and find the problem.

So try to move the slave with a hyd. hand pump

paul saulnier · 03-09-2007, 07:39 AM

Thanks, Dean. I'll try that. I did move the fork anbout 1" with a threaded rod and that allowed me to shift the tranny with the engine running. But after I released the rod, there was about 3/4" of free play in the fork, where there was only 1/4" before I did that, suggesting that I bent the fingers of the diaphram around the throwout bearing.