Let's build a 934!

[Jim Richards]

The posts in this thread left me wondering if this was a real project. Thanks for clearing that up.

[rdane]

Thanks Keith, will do.

I guess I should be more specific on my concerns. Not worried about the costs or estimates (within some kind of reason) but much more worried about the details being identified and the shop able to sort them out, well before I have to point them out. Hope than makes sense.

You added dash board back dates and the plus and minus of the different chassis models just off the top of your head so I suspect it does. Thanks.

[sl951]

If you're serious, I'd probably give SmartRacing / Jerry Woods a call.

Everytime I visit, they seem to have 934's and Flat-fan engines everywhere.

934 pic / smart racing

Do you think this engine would fit

[WERK I]

While the 996 T offeres more potential HP, it comes at a cost.....namely weight. Waterpumpers bring more weight to the car. Radiators, water pumps, hoses, plus the added weight of water.

[911teo]

I suspect you'd be around 2,400-2,500 pounds with a 993 tub (with interior etc).

So 5lb/hp easy.

I still think the 993 tub offers the best compromise. Yes Keith will have to sweat fabbing and grafting for the right "look", but the transmission and rear multi-link are definetly worth it.

The problem (big problem) is finding a 993 tub.

Before we contemplated the floor swap on my car I searched for such a tub... Zero leads. So timing might be important.

[msucro]

Already have a pretty good start...

1980 911 Turbo
EFI twin plug 3.5
Extrude honed heads and intake
BB headers
Motec M48
GT35R
964 cams (need to pass smog for now)
525 at 1 bar
Guard limited slip
993TT front rotors and calipers, 930 rears
Still running big torsions and need to think about switching to coilovers...

I think I'll start by stripping the interior down and adding the flare extensions and front valance. I like the fuel filler in the hood too so I'll have to replumb that. I'll have to stay with a factory Turbo tail since my intercooler is HUGE. I like the look of the 5 spoke centerlocks like these!


Where can I buy the fiberglass/carbon fiber?

Marcus

[msucro]

Try this for a pic since my link didn't work before...

http://www.rgruppe.org/gallery/Treffen06/source/john_gray20.html

[rdane]

Looks like the best bang for the buck if you aren't looking for the last 10th of a second is something like this.

- C2 as the base unibody
- centerlock hubs + 962 17" wheels
- 993 GT2 transmission + Guard GT2 LSD
- JRZ/Moton adj shocks + ERP components
- 575HP tuned 993 TT engine (k24 turbos, remap, bigger cooler)
- SC roller for the interior/exterior conversion parts

Lofty goals would be 2300# and 575HP (110 octane race gas) or 1:4.
The numbers would put the chassis on a serious diet and the motor headed to it's upper end. (which was 600hp in the factory cars)

But if it can be accomplished it would better the original 993 GT2 factory car.

[ERH]

Please do it, vicarious thrills are still thrills )

Ed

[SCHNELE]

It will be a week until I can post some photos.

[SCHNELE]

The 993tt will no doubt be less expensive than building a 930, if I had to do it again I would still stick with the 3.4 Andial, but the 993tt is more flexible off boost as well.

[21blackjack]

Hi,

They are very cool cars, the one pictured is chassis 9306700162 that I used to own and drove to a 11th O/A at Sebring. The car now belongs to Michael Shafer, If you chose to do your car I have a contact that has the molds for the flares that pop rivet on. I have been making the center lock hubs front and rear since the early 90's. If you really are trying to make it accurate I can dig out some old pictures of the 934 tub ( tubs, I have restored a few of them and owned two )

Jim

[Erik Mckenna]

Dane,
It's funny.... I had ask about the 3,6 and all the while for the past 2 years I have had the "tick" of a 930 with that damn TURBO bouncing around in my head.. My brother in law has a 79 930 gutted and it's wicked! I LOVE IT!.. and my father in law has a 79 930 that he has in the past let me take to car shows.. and I LOVE that car aswell.. and it's white! which really gives me a damn woody! I need one!
I say BUILD a bad azz 934! I agree with the others.. you are a guy that will see it through and pick the right people to help build it.
I am like you though.. I REALLY want a classic turbo.. there is nothing like them! nothing!!!!and a lightweight classic turbo.. well.. I have no words to say how nasty that would be!
Good luck.
One day I will have a turbo. until them I will watch and see what you come up with!

[Erik Mckenna]

Dane,
I only ask one thing... when you build it.. please make it sit like this! haha I LOVE this stance! ahahah!
a 934 sitting like this would be killer!!!

[msucro]

[Craig 930 RS]

Leave it. Looks smooth and integrated, as-is.

[rdane]

Jim, I'd love to see any more pics you have of 934s.

Eric? You need to get Craig's impressions of 930 vs 3.6. I suspect he'll tell the 3.6 is a poor man's turbo

But you have them at home and already know that! Going from 7#:1hp down to 5:1 makes it a no brainier for fun factor. There was a time when I couldn't imagine a driving a faster car, now my imagination has grown. Lots of folks way ahead of me. That red turbo is sooooooooo over the top. What do you think he is running for negative camber!?

Marcus...nice looking car! I'd keep it as is.

[Craig 930 RS]

Lightweight 3.6 will clobber a stock to lightly modded 930.

When my 930 was sick (40% leakdown on cyl #3), Dane and I went for a drive 3 days after I bought the 930.......he positively pulled a w a y.

As Dane implies - when it comes to acceleration........."It's all about the P/W ratio"

Hey Dan, whatcha doing today? Good day to test the 930.....
I have until about 2:00, ready to roll....

[msucro]

I think it looks pretty good too! I am definitely going on a diet this year... RS interior, lightweight seats, etc. I'll price everything to do a 934 conversion just for kicks but I'm planning on spending my money for track days/tires since I'm getting a bit too chicken$hit to ride my bike like a madman anymore....

Marcus

[air-cool-me]

yea... took out my old car for a drive with dane a long while ago..

2420lb fresh and lightly modded 930 motor(268 at the wheels ans 291 foot lbs) http://spadger.best.vwh.net/Dyno_061120.jpg ) hooked to a 915..







it was absolute destruction in the turns..

but back to back you made a comment about it feeling just as fast.. i think we came to the conclusion that the 3.6 was a bit faster... but the soft suspension and the brutality of getting on boost adds perceived HP.


"It's all about the P/W ratio"
....and gearing

I miss having a work in progress... if you go 934 im not going to be able to take it... I will have to "R" the SWB and try and figure out how to fit 8's under its ass.