1975 911S I'm interested, input please

[Augustus]

Hello again,

I know its not a 88 with a G50 but I like it. Cool colour combo and low miles.

I emailed the owner and he wants me to make an offer. I was thinking 15K

Fire away!

I really appreciate everyones help.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1975-Porsche-911S-Coupe-YELLOW-ON-BLACK-67K-MILES_W0QQitemZ170147372624QQihZ007QQcategoryZ1015 6QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
1975 Porsche 911S Coupe YELLOW ON BLACK 67K MILES !

[Dan in Pasadena]

15k huh? For that kind of money it would have to be the best low mileage, documented Mid Year in the world. Now, I am a Mid year owner and my car has almost EVERYTHING done to it in the last 2 years and I can't get that kind of money for mine. If I could I would frankly. Mine has a new metal up paint job, new upholstery, new headliner, freshly Al Reed-polished 15" Fuchs and new tires, Carrera chain tensioners, new clutch, rebuilt fuel distributor, new electric ditributor, all fluids, filters changed, valve adjust, and on and on. Does this car have all that? You can buy mine for only $12,000.

You do know that Mid years are still considered my some to be the most problemmatic 911's particularly California cars since the head studs COULD be prone to pull because of the thermal reactors (TR) mandated by smog regualtions of that era along with problems with the valve guides?

I'm not trying to put you off this car; its your money so spend it any way you want...but get a PrePurchaseInspection done by a good shop. One that is NOTthe shop that maintained this car. It better have complete service records and low mileage. No TR's, 11 blade fan update, and a lot more. Post ap icture of it here, but that is a LOT of money for the car. You simply do not have to pay that much for a mid year, even a really good one.

UJPDATE: Just saw the link. Nice car but that is a dealer and they are asking tip top dollar. You know nothing about that car other than the claims.

[FenderGuy]

+1 with Dans though listen to him

[kilodawg]

Augustus,

No brainer.......Buy Dan's for $12K

[Porsche_monkey]

You can get a reasonably good 84-87 3.2 car for that money. I don't see why you would spend $15k on a car from 'that' era.

[azasadny]

Get a pre-purchase inspection (PPI) done and test drive the car before you buy it!

[widgeon13]

nice car but bone stock, I wouldn't pay a penny over 8K even if the PPI came back all ok. As others have said you can get a nice SC or Carrera for 15K

[RWebb]

way too much unless it is perfect in every way and improved over stock in the important ways

As one example (and this is a West Coast car, where prices tend to be higher), this car has sold 3 times in the last decade or so. Once for $16,500, once for $18,000 and I don't know re the third sale. One owner (not me had put more than $50,000 into it AFTER he bought it - sure he was crazy but....).

Color is Gulf Blue, the same color as the 1973 Le Mans winning 917. Only 200 911S models were manufactured in this color from 1975 to 1977. Porsche manufactured 2,310 911’s of all types in 1975, its silver anniversary year (from 9115200001 to 2310). The Port of Entry for this car was Portland, OR which is unusual. The car was imported in December 1974 and has been continuously registered and maintained in Eugene, OR. All serial numbers match. The car was featured on the cover of the Cascades Region PCA magazine, Jan/Feb. 1994. Have all service records.
1. Engine
The stock engines for 1975 were: 49-state US models 165 HP, California 160, ROW has 175 HP; ROW has 175 lb. ft. of Torque. The California cars had thermal reactors and EGR, ran hot, and are the source of the much discussed problems with 1975-1977 911s. This car did NOT have thermal reactors, but did have CIS FI, 165 hp DIN. It probably has » 185 hp now, maybe 190 or more.
At about 89,000 miles, about $17,000 to upgrade the engine (prices for parts only are given). The work was done by a Porsche specialist. Rods and Pistons were balanced (“exactly”; not just ± 3 g weight classes), 24 RaceWare studs were installed in the heads ($800). Time-Certs were installed in the case. The rocker arms and rocker arm shafts were replaced. Bronze-Phosphorus valve guide inserts (as used in the SC), and new valves and springs were installed. Cam tensioners updated to 1984 Carrera type.
A 911 Carrera oil cooler was installed ($800). Oil temperatures rarely exceed 180 °F. [The maximum Toil I have observed was 210 °F after running the car on a prolonged uphill when the outside Tair = 105 °F; driving at 110 mph, Toil = 190 °F.]
European Bosch distributor (0231.184.004) {vacuum advance not used}, PermaTune ignition box capacitive discharge, ignition system, and a new complete engine wiring harness. All engine hoses and lines replaced. The stock CIS FI was discarded and Weber 40 IDA carbs were installed ($2,000). An SSI RS exhaust system was installed with an OEM 1973 RS muffler. The engine could be restored to smogable status with re-installation of the CIS system as all original connections have been preserved and Bruce has all the CIS components in storage. [I am told the Webers are CARB certified in California, so the engine may meet smog specs as is.]
K&N air filters with splash shields. Fuel pump is underneath gas tank; was replaced at » 90,000 miles.
Alternator – 75 amp(?)stock is 55 amp) – new alternator Oct. 1999. Auxiliary heater blower and hose system … with aircraft quality hoses.
In general, the car is “gold-plated.” As one example … $75/ gallon heat resistant paint custom matched to the original green of the sheet metal shroud on the engine. About ½ pint was used to paint the sheet metal.
2. Transmission
Short shift kit. New lightweight heavy-duty racing clutch and lightened flywheel. CV joints serviced.

3. Suspension
Turbo tie rods, bushings, and fittings. Torsion bars are 21 mm front/ 27 mm rear.
Ride height lowered (ht. from ground to rear fender lip = 24.4”), and corrected bump steer setup. Camber cross brace ties together the front shock towers. Koni gas adjustable shocks. Front wheel bearings replaced.
4. Brakes
Red calipers; Pads recently replaced. New brake lines installed in 1995.
5. Wheels
Fuchs, were polished and repainted by Robert Wood, Inc. Specially made center hubs with Cloisonné Porsche insignia installed. 5 pin style locking wheel nuts were installed (RND Ltd., PO Box 390516, Mountain View, CA 94039, 415/968-5931).
6. Bodywork
The car has never been in an accident and is rust-free. In 1995, the entire car repainted by Bud Johnson at Acme Auto Body. Bud is a 911 owner and did a meticulous paint job. 1997 – new sunroof guides and seals; new window seals. New OEM windshield installed by Joe at Premier Autoglass. Replaced all parking, stop light, and tail light lenses.
7. Interior
The entire interior was stripped and Q-pads were placed through-out – on the doors, the back seats, the floor – to provide sound isolation. Also, jute pads were installed beneath the custom built floor mats, which have Porsche symbols on them. Seatbelts were replaced. Al’s upholstery redid the original vinyl seats in Gahn Leather which was imported from Germany ($1,500). The seats also have bolsters added to improve comfort on long trips. A blue light comes on under the dash with the headlights to illuminate the footwells.
8. Instruments
150 mph speedometer replaced with 200 mph face by North Hollywood Speedometer; calibrated to ±0.5 mph at any speed. Oil level gauge is dead accurate.
9. Electrical
Bosch 100W H1 headlights ($700). Ken Wilhelm at WW AutoWerks set both high and low beams to come on together at the high beam setting. European Bosch Headlights – 100W Osram bulbs for both high and low beams
10. Sound System
Nakamichi TD-500 head unit, installed about 1992 (no CD player). Soundstream MC-140 amplifier under passenger seat (front). Two a/d/s 200is units under passenger seat (rear). Boston Pro speakers with crossovers are used in the doors and two 12” Boston Acoustics Pro 780LF Series II speakers were installed in a custom made ported enclosure installed in the rear footwell riser. John Carroll at Bradford’s did the installation.
11. Alarm System
Clifford Sabre Alarm System – sensors for glass breaking, doors, motion ® disengages starter and sounds siren. Car has 944 door locks with LEDs inside connected to alarm system.
B. Maintenance – current on all maintenance items; garaged when not driven; rarely driven in rain
Gas – always used Chevron Supreme with Techron (premium, 92 octane).

[boxster03]

Original excellent shape P car prices regardless of MY appear to be going through the roof. That said this car has the wrong radio and wrong steering wheel, but certainly easy enough to correct. Seller does not state if it has original paint and interior, at that price it would have to. PPI is very important and you don't want to skip that step. Good luck with purchase.

[ael911]

Definitely get a PPI before any consideration. The 75 chassis was one year away from full galvanization and are still prone to rust like the early 911s. Since there are no pictures of the undercarriage, I would be very curious to see the underpan and under the rockers. Also, like Dan said, the 2.7 is very prone to valve guide failure and pulled headstuds, especially if the car was a California car with thermal reactors. Do your homework on these cars as they can be problematic and very expensive to fix. With that said, I love my 75 Silver Anniversary and I got a fully sorted street hotrod for the same asking price as the car your looking at.

[PatrickM]

Hey guys, I live here in Portland, Oregon and the place selling the car tends to be overpriced and in my mind, somewhat overstates the cars they sell. That said, I think that Dan's car is worth $20K easily. Look at what the early cars are going for. I just recently heard of a non original early "T" sell for $75K. If that is the going rate for an early "T", my '77 and Dan's '75 should be easily in the $20K+ range.

[f3nr15]

HIJACK:

PatrickM, any pics of the sports seats installed yet?

[Paul K]

Patrick:

You beat me to it. NW Investment sets their prices very high. I would not buy from them.

Augustus:

You can get a heck of a lot more car than that for $15k. Even one in yellow, if that's what you really want. Be patient (very difficult I know) and remember; get a PPI!

Cheers,

Paul.

[Larry_Ratcliff]

I can appreciate wanting a 75 vs a 3.2 carrera. No smog and you can do what you want with it. However, I guess if you are looking at a car in that condition you are looking for a stocker. To me it looks like a real nice car and with 60ish K original miles probably worth the coin.

My 2 cents is that if you want a pure original low mile car then it seems to be worth it. However, I do have my suspicions about the miles and even the front seats. The front seats do not look like 75 vintage. (My 74 seats were almost mint before I turned it into an insanely modified car). This is a bit of a mute point if not for the mile representation of the car. I would just be very suspicious of the miles based on the seats being replaced. (I could be completely wrong but just look at the rear seats they dont seem to match to me).

I am only harping on this point because if those are not true 60ish K miles then no way is the car worth the $ . You can buy a pretty nice 74 - 75 911 for 8-9K ... shoot I bought mine for 5K and I was the 3rd owner (that was about 5 years ago though).

It does look nice though good luck.
Larry

[Larry_Ratcliff]

Oh and funky steering wheel too forgot to mention that ...

[Larry_Ratcliff]

Head liner will need to be replaced in not so distant future too.. about a 1K item... and whats up with that dryer hose looking heater tube in the engine bay...

[MobileWrks]

BUY DANS!! 15 for a who knows car is too much .. Atleast Dan is a Pelican and he can tell you ex what your buying...Ill even do a PPI for free!

[PatrickM]

f3nr15....I will see what I have for pics as far as the seats go.

Paul K, I agree, I would not buy from NW Investment.

Larry, the seats look like original "comfort" seats for '74-'77.
Here's a pic of my comfort seats.

[Larry_Ratcliff]

Originally Posted by PatrickM

f3nr15....I will see what I have for pics as far as the seats go.

Paul K, I agree, I would not buy from NW Investment.

Larry, the seats look like original "comfort" seats for '74-'77.
Here's a pic of my comfort seats.

Ok I might agree... but look at the texture difference between your seats and what is in that car. No way would they even need to be recovered with only 60K miles.

[Larry_Ratcliff]

Oh and BTW sweet cars in this post Patrick and that sweet silver car. Both very nice cars.