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Noah930 09-28-2007 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by oneblueyedog (Post 3504080)

Oooh! Something very Lola T70-ish about it.

red67 09-29-2007 05:20 AM

here's my oldskool with circa 72'ish overider's
rear lights kinda look 993ish
maybe better with original lights

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9738/oldskoolym7.jpg
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9...dskool2mo9.jpg
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/764/normalus0.jpg

gostraight 09-29-2007 03:14 PM

sub'd
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1191104059.jpg

lfot 09-29-2007 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by gostraight (Post 3505291)

Hmmm... reminds me of the Crossfire. Uhg.

gostraight 09-29-2007 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by lfot (Post 3505308)
Hmmm... reminds me of the Crossfire. Uhg.

you must be sick. or on drugs. prescription or not.:D

oneblueyedog 09-29-2007 05:28 PM

I'm digging the treatment to that backside gostraight.

Garen 09-29-2007 07:30 PM

oh what the hell... I'll play too:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1191123840.jpg

Regards,

gostraight 09-29-2007 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Garen (Post 3505579)
oh what the hell... I'll play too:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1191123840.jpg

Regards,

NO FAIR! You got the hi thech Alias!:D
nice 22" Garen. Looks good

Garen 09-29-2007 09:03 PM

Photoshop, dude... Alias is back at work, and for what it's worth, I don't like the new PC-based studio paint replacement. Only use Alias for 3d work.

Yeah, the wheels are a bit too big. (I can't believe I just typed that :))

Garen 09-29-2007 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by the (Post 3502272)
Pshop skills are a little rusty, but here you go, with a tail even.

http://gbvehiclecontracts.co.uk/images/911_Turbo.jpg



-too funny! :D

Dave (Oz) 09-29-2007 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by red67 (Post 3504698)
here's my oldskool with circa 72'ish overider's
rear lights kinda look 993ish
maybe better with original lights

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9738/oldskoolym7.jpg
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9...dskool2mo9.jpg
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/764/normalus0.jpg

Paul, I like the way you are going, but aren't you missing something? Didn't they put water in these things at some point? ... Better keep your AA membership up to date :)

oregonmon 09-30-2007 01:35 PM

I see many improvements, keep them coming guys.

gostraight 09-30-2007 03:50 PM

start fresh
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1191192603.jpg

oneblueyedog 09-30-2007 03:56 PM

Superb! Looks a bit out of my price range, though so is the Cayman.

DARISC 09-30-2007 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gostraight (Post 3506559)
start fresh

Very nice design sketch, Radu!

But if we're talking about modding the existing Cayman, it might be difficult to fit it on the existing wheel base and keep the g.c., top of fenders and roof, wheel & tires and windshield rake the same :D.



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1191197900.jpg

Cheers,

David

gostraight 09-30-2007 05:25 PM

good poit David. That's why starting fresh would be a better idea. Afterall, that boxter design is 9 years old and not aging very gracefully.

DARISC 09-30-2007 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by gostraight (Post 3506683)
good poit David. That's why starting fresh would be a better idea. Afterall, that boxter design is 9 years old and not aging very gracefully.

I agree. However, I would be interested in seeing your concept of a new Boxman, sticking to my above mentioned ref. points. Oh, I know....that sounds like a class assignment :), but it would be interesting to see a concept based on the existing platform, with realistic g.c., wheel arch/fender clearance, etc., no?

gostraight 09-30-2007 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DARISC (Post 3506706)
I agree. However, I would be interested in seeing your concept of a new Boxman, sticking to my above mentioned ref. points. Oh, I know....that sounds like a class assignment :), but it would be interesting to see a concept based on the existing platform, with realistic g.c., wheel arch/fender clearance, etc., no?


In my opinion, the boxter/caymen have some , how should I say this?- less than desirable inherited attributes. just to name a few, long front overhang, bad wheel tire wheel arch ratio, The cayman S is getting better @ overall wheel and tire package.

There's no reason why they should not fit larger wheel/tire package in the base model (other than financial, and maybe ride quality, on the other hand I don't know anybody that buys a Cayman for the ride quality.



the "brain tumor" as I call it- the oversize greenhouse arch, I'm guessing is due to using the cowl/windshield from the 911 model, but the Cayman "CO" pillars don't reach back far enough to sweeten the roof line. You add to that the 95th percentile american driver, a not so low "H" point and you got a perfect recipe for a bobble car.



As far as working with the existent car, I agree with most of the comments so far.

a. better wheel/tire package lower ride height

b. move the "B"pillar rearward

c. higher rear deck

d. lower "lower valance"

e. narrower/ longer "D.L.O."

MOMO3.2 09-30-2007 07:21 PM

My gosh Radu, you are so talented!

Your design (which is fantastic) looks like a great evolution of the Lotus Exige. I love it!

Porsche would probably take your design and add excess weight, comfort, safety and most of all cost.

FWIW, I just test drove an Elise two hours ago. It was AWSOME! I will be setting my sights on a used one someday.

Mike

gostraight 09-30-2007 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MOMO3.2 (Post 3506890)
My gosh Radu, you are so talented!

Your design (which is fantastic) looks like a great evolution of the Lotus Exige. I love it!

Porsche would probably take your design and add excess weight, comfort, safety and most of all cost.

FWIW, I just test drove an Elise two hours ago. It was AWSOME! I will be setting my sights on a used one someday.

Mike

Thanks Mike:rolleyes:

elises are awesome! there's no substitute for lightweight!
there's no real reason for a cayman cowel to be that high (other than the above mentioned). I think the car would benefit from lowering the cowel on the CL.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1191206193.jpg


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