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LJ851 07-05-2016 06:22 AM

How is this project coming along?

eimkeith 10-12-2016 12:51 PM

wow - I owe this thread an update!

let me go find the photographs since my last post..

kenikh 10-12-2016 12:58 PM

I saved you the trouble:

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...b763cdaaf0.jpg


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gestalt1 10-12-2016 03:56 PM

Nice!

eimkeith 10-13-2016 05:28 AM

That's correct; complete change of direction since December.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...b763cdaaf0.jpg

so here's where we left off, thread-wise, as best I can tell:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476365037.jpg

eimkeith 10-13-2016 06:06 AM

From there the 911 went back on the alignment rack with the drivetrain installed to confirm chassis setup.

I didn't like the range of camber adjustment or the position of the wheels in the wheel wells on the rear, so I blew everything apart to move the trailing arm pivots around until I got the camber sweep I was after. (Third time was the charm, of course.)

The project when back on the Celette to rehang the rear bodywork and finalize the mounting tabs.

While it was mounted on the bench, I repaired and straightened the floors, backdated the tunnel, and worked on the decklid hinges.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476365645.jpg



I spent a few days researching the available R hinges for the decklid and comparing them to photos of actual 911Rs, and the only ones that were acceptable weren't available at the time. So, I ended up modeling our own with the correct angle and twist (the original parts were L&R, as I discovered on this thread )

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476367035.jpg

I went so far as to design the tooling for assembly before I thought to check my reference photo archive to verify that R7 even used the R hinges. It didn't. R7 uses what amounts to a screen door hinge, in my opinion.

A couple of rounds of modifying locally available hinges and we ended up with something plausible:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476367432.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476367469.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476367573.jpg

eimkeith 10-13-2016 06:13 AM

somewhere in there we had a Cooper's hawk fly into the shop and get herself trapped in the rafters (things stay interesting around here.)

ever wondered why welding gloves are made of leather?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476367733.jpg

eimkeith 10-13-2016 06:21 AM

So, everything adjusted, tabbed up, and floor and tunnel sectioned in, the MSRSR was completely stripped down once again and put on the rotisserie for the final stretch of welding.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476368115.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476368454.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476368136.jpg

The RSR/G50/930 trailing arm pivots were finalized, as was the RSR pedalbox floor with an extension for a hydraulic clutch master hidden in the tunnel

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476368283.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476368305.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476368324.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476368400.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476368416.jpg

eimkeith 10-13-2016 06:36 AM

Currently, I'm working on resolving the odds and ends/details on the chassis between other projects.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476368675.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476368691.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476368708.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476368735.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476369341.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476369362.jpg

eimkeith 10-13-2016 06:50 AM

In between all of that, other work has occurred on the parts-side:

We're going to run a muffler on this car (neighborhood tolerance) and heat, so we decided to use the R/RSR big tip muffler (used with megaphones) look. We're modifying a stainless Dansk with our own tips.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476369989.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476370133.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476370164.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476370185.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476370201.jpg

(we still have to do the backside work to mate to the 993 heat exchangers we're using on this engine)

eimkeith 10-13-2016 06:52 AM

Additionally, we had the MFI injector blocks/adapters that we designed for this project machined. These came out particularly nice!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476370339.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476370361.jpg

eimkeith 10-13-2016 07:00 AM

Backdating the center tunnel allows us to run RS Lightweight seat mounts under the lollipop, but we didn't like the height - so we developed our own line of lowered, RS Lightweight inspired seat mounts for the F chassis.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476370539.jpg

These have a 30mm drop at the rear! We also used a shoulder bolt in a socket, so as to get away from the common practice of putting a threaded bolt in shear to mount the seat.


And, just yesterday, I finalized the throttle pedal extension, so as to resemble the one in R7:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476370726.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476370786.jpg

So all in all, a bit has happened since the last update. ;)

al lkosmal 10-13-2016 07:46 AM

Keith, those MFI injector blocks are very nice. Nice Hawk work too!

eimkeith 10-13-2016 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by al lkosmal (Post 9317634)
Keith, those MFI injector blocks are very nice. Nice Hawk work too!

Thanks Al!

Cory M 10-13-2016 07:59 AM

good stuff!

eimkeith 10-13-2016 11:07 AM

Thanks Cory!

cnielsen 10-15-2016 07:10 AM

Amazing work Keith! I want one of those mufflers for my ST :)

Tom '74 911 10-15-2016 07:36 AM

Thank you for taking the time to post an update. This project definitely "goes to eleven", and I appreciate the insight into the level of detail, trick design work and bespoke parts involved. I imagine it's a fun project to work on most of the time - whatever it takes, make it so. If a part doesn't exist, you get to figure out how to make it, sometimes using and learning some pretty cool modern technologies in the process. I'm sure it's not roses all the time, but sounds like a lot of fun... Thanks for sharing.

eimkeith 10-15-2016 08:16 AM

Thanks guys.

MFX 10-17-2016 02:49 AM

I love the attention to detail you are going to on this build. It would be tedious, but I think it will be an amazing tribute when it is done. Great work.

tista 10-17-2016 03:22 AM

Ridiculous next level ****. If I lived nearby, I'd sweep the floors just to breath the air.

eimkeith 10-17-2016 03:15 PM

ha! thanks. :)

jpnovak 10-17-2016 06:06 PM

Keith, Are you going to offer the MFI injector blocks?

I like those very much.

Geneman 10-17-2016 06:28 PM

Keith its Frank in Philly. just found this thread Beautiful work..... just great

eimkeith 10-17-2016 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpnovak (Post 9323294)
Keith, Are you going to offer the MFI injector blocks?

I like those very much.

Yes sir - 3.2 and 3.6 varieties. (you know how to get in touch) :)

eimkeith 10-17-2016 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geneman (Post 9323312)
Keith its Frank in Philly. just found this thread Beautiful work..... just great

Well hello there! :)

- and thanks!

ceagon 11-11-2016 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tista (Post 9322117)
Ridiculous next level ****. If I lived nearby, I'd sweep the floors just to breath the air.

There's a waiting list for that position — I'm on it, waiting on the phone call.

OffCamber00 11-14-2016 06:24 AM

I'm bringing my Dansk for that outlet treatment :) Very sweet!

The shoulder bolt idea for the seat mounting is clever indeed. Can't wait to see how the rest of it comes together.

rolfjahn 11-14-2016 06:55 PM

Excellent Work
 
I wish I knew about you before I started my two major projects...Subscribed

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1479182074.jpg

nameisbauer 11-15-2016 07:42 AM

This build will be 9 Years old in two weeks.

rolfjahn 11-15-2016 09:25 AM

Yes this I know and I started his thread from the beginning.
The ideas, fabrication and pictures are current and inspiring to me.
My two projects are in for three years.
There is always someone with an alternative idea or innovative method to our madness.

I have successfully figured out LED lighting for headlights,
including the oil cooler lean angle, oil lines and bracket design.
Proper LED gauge lighting and redesign.
Interior designs and leather work with audio to the next level.
I will be posting my discoveries soon.

So I'm impressed with what he is doing. SmileWavy

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1479232691.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1479232733.jpg

sithot 11-15-2016 10:42 AM

I saw it for the fist time in 2008 at the Charlotte PCA Parade.

scootermcrad 06-06-2017 06:39 AM

Okay Keith... where are we at with this thing!? Don't make me come down there and talk your ear off. :)

toniwonkanobi 06-06-2017 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolfjahn (Post 9360309)
Yes this I know and I started his thread from the beginning.
The ideas, fabrication and pictures are current and inspiring to me.
My two projects are in for three years.
There is always someone with an alternative idea or innovative method to our madness.

I have successfully figured out LED lighting for headlights,
including the oil cooler lean angle, oil lines and bracket design.
Proper LED gauge lighting and redesign.
Interior designs and leather work with audio to the next level.
I will be posting my discoveries soon.

So I'm impressed with what he is doing. SmileWavy

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1479232691.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1479232733.jpg

What lights are those? Look like the Singer Hella units (which require cutting of the headlight bucket). Any info/links?

rennch 06-06-2017 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eimkeith (Post 9317571)
Backdating the center tunnel allows us to run RS Lightweight seat mounts under the lollipop, but we didn't like the height - so we developed our own line of lowered, RS Lightweight inspired seat mounts for the F chassis.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476370539.jpg

These have a 30mm drop at the rear! We also used a shoulder bolt in a socket, so as to get away from the common practice of putting a threaded bolt in shear to mount the seat.


And, just yesterday, I finalized the throttle pedal extension, so as to resemble the one in R7:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476370726.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1476370786.jpg

So all in all, a bit has happened since the last update. ;)



At some point, it became an art project.


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eimkeith 06-06-2017 08:17 AM

Lol!

We're about to go to the first round of paint. In the interim, I just unboxed these yesterday:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4547fa9dbd.jpg


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sc 06-06-2017 08:57 AM

Please do tell.....
Been waiting forever for someone to replicate the Singer headlights.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1496768165.jpg

rolfjahn 06-06-2017 10:55 AM

Purchased from the Builder
 
  1. You have to cut the head light buckets
  2. The oil cooler gets angled with new mount points-welding required
  3. Custom length oil cooler lines fabrication from Elephant Racing required
  4. Custom Cooling fan and thermostat from Elephant
  5. Interesting time intensive wiring required
  6. Compliment with all LED wiring...
  7. Yes they are Hella LEDs and are very high end units

Looks TOTALLY B!T!CH!N :D

and I might have a set for sale at cost

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1496775259.jpg

Flojo 06-07-2017 01:41 AM

Can't help it, I don't like their look.

rolfjahn 06-07-2017 06:58 AM

Its a car specific personal preference
 
That's why Porsche makes a fluted lens
You can have it either way and the fluted lens works great.
Unless you like driving blind at night with a low voltage halogen.
Halogen looks period correct but doesn't work at night.
There are lots of HID/LED options out there.

I'm not a period correct person, every car I build is custom to my design.
I prefer to drive them and keep them.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1496847410.jpg


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