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Weltmeister Short Shift kit installation instructions?

does anyone have a copy of the installation instructions for a Weltmeister Short Shift kit? if so, would you be willing to scan, fax, post, or email them to me?

my email: tmctguer@cox.net
my fax: 949 240 6582

I really appreciate your help !

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Here are the instructions: Remove Weltmeister from box, discard in nearest trash receptacle. Install factory short shift kit.
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dang - rod beat me to it...

you could put it on eBay or give it to an enemy...

use the factory parts (get 'em here) or none

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I like mine just fine. I am looking for the instructions (I know I kept them) but have not found them yet,
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Oh no, someone with a different opinion......eeks!

Nice homepage gallery Mr. Flintstone.
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Nice homepage gallery Mr. Flintstone.
Thanks. Same to ya soldier! Nice targa. Perfect for Oahu.
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i am disassembling a used Weltmeister short shift kit to scavenge shifter parts. I need the instructions to see which parts are from the Weltmeister kit and which ones might be usable in a shift tower/shifter project I am working on.

thanks for looking !
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Looks like 5 screws a shift lever and a base plate, I have no way of knowing this is just a picture I found.



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Sent instructions via email.
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I have them memorized:

1)Open box
2)Empty contents into trash can
3)Thank the Lord you didn't install this POS short shift kit
4)Purchase a FACTORY short shift kit and live happily ever after



EDIT: CRAP, Rod beat me to it, too.
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Pretty harsh from a guy that goes by Mr914.
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Pretty harsh from a guy that goes by Mr914.
Dude, you forgot the "6". It makes all the difference.

Nice targa, btw. Good execution on the details.

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Ok...you win! Thanks! But the shifter sure works better than the stock one...I can't speak to the factory short shift.
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Ok...you win!
I won? I WON!!! WOOO HOOO!!!!







Wait a minute .... what'd I win?


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Used weltmiester shifter?
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thanks Flintsone !

and by the way, I DO have a factory short shift in my car. Momma didn't raise no fool !

i am using the Weltmeister to scavenge a few parts to de-install a Robotek device and bring the shifter back to a stock/short shift configuration.
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thanks Flintsone !

and by the way, I DO have a factory short shift in my car. Momma didn't raise no fool !

i am using the Weltmeister to scavenge a few parts to de-install a Robotek device and bring the shifter back to a stock/short shift configuration.
Rick,
BTW, isn't the Robotek compatible with the factory short shifter? Inquiring mind wants to know.

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Whats the difference between the Weltmeister and factory kit, is it just the amount of reduced travel?
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There's a geometry difference.

A Weltmeister SS shortens the throws by 39%
A factory short shifter reduces the throws by 25%

On the face of it, the WM is "better" because the throws are shorter, but there's a trade off.

To produce a shorter throw, the pivot point (fulcrum) of the shift lever must be moved and in so doing changes the effort to move the lever. The shorter the throw, the less leverage - i.e. increases effort to move the shift lever.

For many owners, the increased effort is bothersome. For others, it's fine. YMMV. However, Porsche synchros don't like to be rushed. A shift lever that moves the synchro assemblies faster than "normal" creates more wear (shortens synchro life). A driver that also shifts faster only exacerbates the situation.

For these reasons, I recommend the more modest, but still noticeable, factory short shifter.

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