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Purchase a soft socket to protect my lug nuts during torquing a vendor in the typical Porsche magizines.
After two episodes of torquing the plastic insert slips and the socket is unusable. A $30 socket down the drain. Anyone had better luck and which supplier???? |
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Forget about it....never seen one that lasted. Just don't use an impact wrench on the lug nuts and you'll be fine with a 6 point 19mm socket.
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Stoddards sells an all aluminum socket...tapered end to prevent scratching wheel paint. I tried the plastic insert one...was disappointed like you. No problems with the one from Stoddards, it handles the 96 ft. pounds with ease.
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Use a standard socket and put a sandwich bag on the nut. The single layer of plastic fits in the socket and protects the nut. Edit - use a six point socket only, not a twelve point
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I've used my plastic lined one for at least 9 years and I got it used when I bought my first 911. maybe the engineers figure out a way to cheap them out.
I keep my Al socket with the car's tool kit for "emergency" use. |
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I am using one from Snap-On and have had it for two years with no troubles so far. Being Snap-On it wasn't inexpensive - about $40.
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The Pelican soft socket has lasted. I did destroy the last one (Cheapo). I have had to put new adhesive between the hard and the soft alum insert. I am guessing plastic will not last. Impact drivers will kill them in short order.
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I have an Aluminium one from Pelican. No issues with it.
The plastic one seemed dicey to me - it can certainly be done, but I figured there is much opportunity for error.
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I have the aluminum Sir Tools socket from Pelican. The pin holding the insert came loose, rendering the socket useless. Pelican replaced it under warranty, thankfully.
Edit: and now the replacement has broken as well. Last edited by gtc; 03-08-2009 at 09:06 PM.. |
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I just use my fingers so that I don't have to worry about marking up the lugs. Who wants scratches??
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I bought mine in 1996 and I use a LOT. I never ever thought about an impact wrench on Porsche aluminum lug nuts. I would bet I have used my soft socket 100 times or more to R&R the wheels since I bought it. I never knew there was a problem with soft sockets. I loosen up the lugs with a standard breaker bar. After the car is in the air I use my non impact drill driver to spin off the lug nuts. I always torque them down to 95 lbs/ft. In 13 years I never even thought about replacing my soft socket.
At every autocross the tech group wants to check the torque of every car. I always have my soft socket ready for them. That is just a torque down check but it is another use. I guess I will not let others borrow it anymore.
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I have a plastic insert socket, the other day the insert slipped out for the first time after a lot of use. I wonder why you couldn't epoxy the insert back into the housing?
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I have a couple of the plastic-insert ones and an aluminum one. I've had one of the plastic ones (soft-tite brand, made in MD, USA) over 25 years and had no problems with it. The aluminum one is a little harder on the nuts.
Not sure how you guys are wearing them out so fast. JR |
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I have the aluminum one as well. For some extra exterior protection I wrapped it in some electrical tape. Been working for a year with no damage to the new lugs.
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Bringing this thread back from the depths.....................
I am in need of a soft socket for my lugs that are getting powdercoated. I would imagine the Aluminum inserted one will scratch up the lugs, no? I was looking at the nylon insert one, but it says to break the lug free with a standard socket. Well that makes no sense as a standard socket will surely scratch or chip the coating (or even painted ones). The lugs will always be hand torqued, so an impact gun is not an issue.
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I have the one with the aluminum insert held in with an aluminum pin. The pin got loose and pushed inside the socket and I ended up scratching a bunch of new lug nuts. Once I spotted the problem the pin just fell out of the socket, piece of junk. Using the 6 sided steel carefully and damage is very minimal. Don't bother wasting your money on one.
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I have used the soft socket I bought from Pelican several times over 1-2 years with no damage. I even use it to break the nuts free, but since I am the only one that touches the car, they are never over torqued.
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Glad to here!, (I wouldn't have thought any different). Haven't used mine but just purchased it and new lug nuts for wheels coming shortly.
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I have of the Pelican nylon lined soft sockets that I have used for 2 years to both break and torque my aluminum lug nuts without any problems. I use 90 ft. lbs. on my BBS wheels. Never use an impact wrench with the soft socket to remove or tighten the nuts.
As an aside I use an adapter extension with my soft socket in my 19.2 V drill motor to run the nuts up snug and take them off after using a breaker bar to loosen them.
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