First Post: New Project

[cmoanz]

A new to me 1970 Irish Green 911T arrived today. The car is an all original numbers matching 2.2 with Zenith's and a 901 5spd.

I'm the third owner, with the second owner having the car since 1972.

I guess I have a lot to think about over the long cold Chicago winter.





Porsche obsession runs in the family, this was my fathers 70 911T targa, that he and I worked on the late 70's early 80's



Now day's he's moved on to a 996TT



I guess my plan is to keep the car mostly original with some mild upgrades, I'm considering: rebuilding the 2.2 with E or Solex cams, E pistons, maybe Webers or PMO's and 15 Fuchs

What would you do?

[gsmith660]

Matching numbers, I wouldn't change a thing just restore whats broke or worn out.

[jpnovak]

the 2.2E motor is so much fun. Perfect for street and backroad drivability, yet potent enough for a fun day at the track. Judging by the picture of your Dad's ride I assume this car might see the track.

I would bring all the mechanicals up to proper running order and enjoy the car. Once you are used to it then decide where you want to go from there. This is what I did with my 71 targa and all I added was a set of Bilsteins and some brake ducts for the days at the track.

Enjoy!

[mjshira]

very cool, welcome to the forum. lots of snow up that way this year, I know I was trapped in some!

[onboost]

Nice cars and welcome aboard!

Looks like a very pretty/nice car.. and the thought of making subtle changes in my opinion work well for a car like that.

If it were me, I'd probably bump it up to 2.4 E specs with the webers & a twin tip sport muffler. Since you'll basically pull the top end just to change the cams.. why not make the bump. It's still subtle as no knows what's in there but you and the sport pipe is a very acceptable mod.

I would definitely move up to the 15" wheels, add H4 lights if it does not have them, euro turn lenses front and rear. That's probably about it for me on that one.

Anyway, good luck with whatever you decide, and above all... enjoy it often!!

Paul

[calling911]

Don't touch it! Just leave it alone and enjoy. Its a work of art.

[petevb]

If you're looking for more power you might consider pulling that motor and setting it aside stock for resale. That would let you do whatever you feel like without fear of offending the purists later on.
Looks just awesome- I'd be tempted to do a nice suspension refresh and a power bump in line with how much stickier modern rubber has gotten. These things did a fair bit of sliding around when new, but given that modern street rubber is as sticky as period race rubber they are now much harder to unstick. I'd think bumping power and torque maybe 30% or so might restore the original "balance of power"?

[YTNUKLR]

It's almost formulaic how to build a fun early 911.

Tastes differ, however, so keep that in mind. Personally, I am a true fan of the short stroke motors and things like short-ratio Airport gears (read: buzzy, more shifting).

If you don't have a budget, maybe a 2.5 MFI Twin-Plug and full short gears, with a limited slip?

Set aside that original 2.2T motor, get it hot, pickle it properly, and keep it in a temperature-stable environment with a big can of desiccant (dehumidifying powder). Do not do anything else to it-don't pilfer parts, disassemble, etc. Leave it alone. Your matching numbers car will always be matching numbers if you do this. And anyone that wants to take it back will not have a PITA project tracking things down.

If you do have a budget, I would buy a 2.7, drop in a nice 66mm crankshaft (a nice 911T unit and 2.0 rods will work beautifully), custom pistons (911S 9.8:1 compression), and probably Solex cams, with Webers. Leave it single plug and get a nice Bosch '69-71 911E/S Distributor. This will save you some serious coin over the above twin-plug 2.5, be a street riot 2.5L short stroke, and simple to deal with the carbs instead of MFI (less changing of perfectly good components). Then spend the money you saved on your transmission, getting some Airport gears. In fact, I almost think the tranny is priority #1, if the motor is good. This would be a hoot.

My 2 Cents.

Pretty car, by the way.

[w21055]

More pics... Looks great! Welcome to the board.



Phil

[aminter0]

Can't wait to see more pics. Car looks great.. congrats!

[cmoanz]

Thanks to everyone for the replies. These forums are best, I've loved reading about all the project cars and active restoration work, it's all very inspiring.

I will post more detailed pictures shortly.

Exterior:
The car has the original 70 paint everywhere but the doors which were repainted in 78. Pictures don't really reflect the condition but car needs a respray.






Interior:
The interior is in good condition. Dash is cracked (of course). The radio and clock are not working, Door pockets need work. I will be removing the aftermarket AC...




Engine:
Has 119k never rebuilt, I have not spent much time with it's missing at least the tensioner update... not to mention a major clean up. Compression test and leak-down coming soon.

[kodioneill]

nice!

[kycarguy 935]

Nice car. My second Porsche was a Irish Green 70T.

[911st]

Nice short stroke - long hood!

What are your goals?

Nothing wrong with the Solex. The national SCCA autoX champion Dwight Mitchel ran Solex carbs on a 2.7 E camed motor with great success. Just need to find someone that knows them.

If you do pump the motor, a S spec 2.5 short stroke with short gears would be an acceptable upgrade. They love to rev.

Still, a well tuned 2.2T can be a ball. Sport muffler, E rev limit rotor, and a good dyno tune...

[canamfan]

Numbers matching beauty!!!!! What a piece of OE history, looking real nice!!!

[mossguy]

The snout on the air cleaner looks like it is pointing in the wrong direction, and the oil thingy (just had a brainfart, can't remember what it's called) that connects to it appears to be missing.

A beautiful car, beautiful color!

Best,
Tom

[manu72S]

Superbe , don't change anything

[RWebb]

beautiful - here are some things to think about over the winter....

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/189572-long-term-commonly-neglected-maintenance-post2955054.html#post2955054

[beasty]

that is amazing! great find!

[ShakinJoe]

what a beaut