Value of a slant nose conversion?

[gsmith660]

Something funny looking with the VIN I guess it needs to be like the car, a narrowbody slantnose doesn't look quite right.

[crxnug]

i would pass on that slantnose, with some searching and patience you should be able to find something nice, the slantnose is not for everyone, you either love them or hate them. i found a all metal conversion after about a year of searching and love it. best place to look to buy is on the porsche forums. i would stay away from ebay unless you can look at the car in person before buying.
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[kepperly]

I am sorry to have offended some that took the funds comment wrong. The fact remains that the slant nose is one of the rarest Porsche's ever produced in the three years they were officially available. I have had mine for over 10 years and it is still a great car. No I'm old enough that I don't try to out drag anyone but let the z06 owners try to chase me down a cloverleaf off ramp.
Keith Epperly
1987 slant nose turbo look carrera cabriolet

[Gogar]

You're right about factory slant noses, keith. They are rare and can be very cool. But:

This is not a factory slant nose. It's also possible the PO converted to slant after an accident, which is common for 'body upgrades.'

It doesn't have the widebody or the other styling cues of a factory slant.

It has a nicer engine, yes, but not era-correct.

No way is that car worth $22K. Even if you absolutely love it, it's a mid-teens car.

[trader220]

Originally Posted by kepperly

I am sorry to have offended some that took the funds comment wrong. The fact remains that the slant nose is one of the rarest Porsche's ever produced in the three years they were officially available. I have had mine for over 10 years and it is still a great car. No I'm old enough that I don't try to out drag anyone but let the z06 owners try to chase me down a cloverleaf off ramp.
Keith Epperly
1987 slant nose turbo look carrera cabriolet

Take you comment wrong? How should one take a comment like

"You probably don't have the funds to step up to something really unique anyway."

???

I am no fan of the Z06 but unless you have a ton of non factory hot rod parts in your turbo look slant car the Z06 will easily leave you in the dust on any cloverleaf or anywhere else for that matter. Let’s face it if your car is stock you're running less than 220 bhp at the crank on a suspension which although excellent for its time is fairly antiquated compared to any modern suspension.

Again I really have no love for the Z06 and although I have driven several its not a car I would buy. It does have over 500 bhp at the crank which is more than double a 1980’s Carrera output and it does have a pretty slick suspension setup, heck the Z06 would blow buy your turbo look slant in any situation.

I can appreciate you car since I am a Porsche lover, especially the air cooled, having owned nearly 2 dozen over the years. Lets face some reality, having or liking a turbo look slant nose car has no affect on ones wealth. Additionally as much as we may all love our own variation of air cooled 911 few of them will run with a modern 500 bhp Z06, and certainly not a stock version air cooled non turbo.

I don’t take much personally from anonymous people on web boards, but I have generally over the years here found most people here good natured folks who share a passion for the same cars I love.. So I take no personal offense from your nonsense but I do suggest you get a better handle on some facts.

[audiman08]

Originally Posted by crxnug

i would pass on that slantnose, with some searching and patience you should be able to find something nice, the slantnose is not for everyone, you either love them or hate them. i found a all metal conversion after about a year of searching and love it. best place to look to buy is on the porsche forums. i would stay away from ebay unless you can look at the car in person before buying.
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That's a good looking slantnose. I think I read an earlier post of yours where you were considering trading that for a Mustang. I'm glad you changed your mind!

[jhynesrockmtn]

I am personally fed up with all the people that post on this board that berate the slant nose. It is the high water mark for Porsche in my opinion, and did give birth to some of Porsche's finest Race cars. If you have never driven one or just don't like them thats up to you. You probably don't have the funds to step up to something really unique anyway. Where I'm located they are probably only five in the entire state!!

Goody for you, you must be loaded. I've got enough funds to own a couple of nice Porsches. A slant nose sure wouldn't be one of them. I don't care what their racing association is. They are ugly as (*&^. Sorry couldn't resist. Plenty of opinionated people here. Most hate something. Who cares, it's not their car and unless you own it to impress others it shouldn't matter.

[jrobb911]

Anyone think I could get $30K for this one? I really think slantnoses are cool just wish it had like 300 HP to match the look. Car has 80k miles, engine recently removed to replace numerous gaskets (while we were in there) , new rotors, and rebuilt calipers. Everything works on this one except the windshield washer bottle is missing.

[K9Torro]

Originally Posted by kepperly

I am sorry to have offended some that took the funds comment wrong. Keith Epperly 1987 slant nose turbo look carrera cabriolet

Uhhh, there was only one way to take that comment,,,

Todd

[Walter_Middie]

Why is the Slantnose not a popular car? I suppose 25 years from now people will be saying that Hummers are great cars, I can’t understand why everyone dislikes them? They forget what happened in the past.

You see rich people don’t fix cars – they get rid of them after a couple of years and buy the latest and greatest. During the 80’s there was a glut of luxury cars on the market, and they were really cheap. Every drug pusher and pimp bought these things and installed every bit of bling they could get their hands on. It even spawned an industry of aftermarket junk. These were the Miami Vice years where bad taste was cool. Unfortunately for the Slantnose, it came out during this time, and represents the idea that even though you have become suddenly rich, you still don’t have a sense of style or good taste.

I’m sure they’re great cars, I just can’t look at one and not think of Crocket, Tubs, and Huggey Bear.

It’s all a matter of your personal taste. I’m sure plenty of people look at me in my plain vanilla old and slow car and wonder what I could possibly be thinking? Surely I can afford a decent Japanese car with power and automatic everything, all the latest electronic gizmos and safety devices, 8 cup holders, and video screens.

To each, his own. If you like the slantnose, enjoy it. I’m sure they’re great cars. Just understand that there is a large population of buyers out there that would never want one.

[charlesbahn]

Originally Posted by Walter_Middie

Just understand that there is a large population of buyers out there that would never want one.

I think this is true of most of the buyers today, but not the next generation of buyers. I have a slant cabrio, and I can tell you that in a parking lot with a sea of Porches, mine is the one all the young kids come over to look at. And when that baby fires up, they almost fall over

I think the slants are a very good investment for the future.

[trader220]

Originally Posted by charlesbahn

I think this is true of most of the buyers today, but not the next generation of buyers. I have a slant cabrio, and I can tell you that in a parking lot with a sea of Porches, mine is the one all the young kids come over to look at. And when that baby fires up, they almost fall over

I think the slants are a very good investment for the future.

I think you'll be very very disappointed if you think any of these cars are "good investments". The kids may think its cool at a young age but my opinion is they will be looking at the 997's when they grow up.

[kilodawg]

As the owner of an '87 M505 car, I don't understand how history flipped a bit in considering these cars. They were built in the late 70's and early '80's as a tribute to one of the most successful racing Porsche's of the decade ('70's) the Porsche 935. Back then there were numerous companies making their name on converting cars to the slantnose look. 935's are still very popular. Yet despite all this they have been tagged to Miami Vice....I really don't get it but one of my goals is to correct this misconception.....

Kids won't want 997's because the maintenance costs for all the electronic failures will make them cost prohibitive....

[Dueller]

Originally Posted by charlesbahn

.... I have a slant cabrio, and I can tell you that in a parking lot with a sea of Porches, mine is the one all the young kids come over to look at. And when that baby fires up, they almost fall over

Running rich, eh?

[WERK I]

Originally Posted by jrobb911

Anyone think I could get $30K for this one? I really think slantnoses are cool just wish it had like 300 HP to match the look. Car has 80k miles, engine recently removed to replace numerous gaskets (while we were in there) , new rotors, and rebuilt calipers. Everything works on this one except the windshield washer bottle is missing.

Sorry, and please don't take this personally, but I don't think you can get $30K for that car, especially in today's market. A couple of things just pop out just viewing one picture;
Front valence has no grill or oil cooler,
Rear brake vents were not done properly (outside edge of vent must follow curvature of lip of the wheelwell).

The thing with any conversion is everything has to be gone over with a fine-toothed comb. So many things that may be hiding beneath the surface.

[trader220]

Originally Posted by kilodawg

As the owner of an '87 M505 car, I don't understand how history flipped a bit in considering these cars. They were built in the late 70's and early '80's as a tribute to one of the most successful racing Porsche's of the decade ('70's) the Porsche 935. Back then there were numerous companies making their name on converting cars to the slantnose look. 935's are still very popular. Yet despite all this they have been tagged to Miami Vice....I really don't get it but one of my goals is to correct this misconception.....

Kids won't want 997's because the maintenance costs for all the electronic failures will make them cost prohibitive....

We were talking about what kids want not what they're going to buy and again they're growing up in an age of 997's and like us they will be the cars of their youth, not a car from 15 years before they were born. I have two cousins who are 10 and 12 and both are car junkies. They love my cars but they really dont car all that much about them when a 997 is in the picture. Even when I had my RSA they liked the car, didnt know what was so special about it. When I take a 997 over to their place its a huge hit, and when I drive one of my cars over its just a cool old car.

Not much you can do about the look of the slant and how it will always be associated with Miami Vice for a group of people who grew up then.

[WERK I]

Originally Posted by trader220

Not much you can do about the look of the slant and how it will always be associated with Miami Vice for a group of people who grew up then.

Another Urban Legend. The story behind the slantnose Porsche evolved from a Arab sheik wanting to own a "streetable" 935. It's certainly acceptable people don't like the Porsche Slantnose, but people really get standoffish on both sides when someone states they like/dislike the cars. The only opinion that matters is the owner's. When someone talks to me about how "Miami Vice-like" the car is, I just walk away and snicker......."whatever". To each, their own. My $0.02.

P.S. what about the Ferrari Daytona? I really don't see any negative impact of the value of that car(even though it was a kit) just because it was on Miami Vice. I wish the Slant could command that kind of price they are bringing today.

[kilodawg]

Enthusiasts develop their appreciation for cars over time. You can't judge what will be collectible in the future based on a 12 year old's opinion today. If you could 356 prices would be declining as few people 50 or younger would care. It takes time to appreciate the bigger picture and that is where the slants will shine some day. People who care about the history of the marque more so than the history of TV will figure it out. It doesn't take too many anyway because there aren't many real ones around.....

[trader220]

Originally Posted by WERK-I

Another Urban Legend. The story behind the slantnose Porsche evolved from a Arab sheik wanting to own a "streetable" 935. It's certainly acceptable people don't like the Porsche Slantnose, but people really get standoffish on both sides when someone states they like/dislike the cars. The only opinion that matters is the owner's. When someone talks to me about how "Miami Vice-like" the car is, I just walk away and snicker......."whatever". To each, their own. My $0.02.

P.S. what about the Ferrari Daytona? I really don't see any negative impact of the value of that car(even though it was a kit) just because it was on Miami Vice. I wish the Slant could command that kind of price they are bringing today.

Good point that the show didnt impact the price of a Daytona poorly, but it did push a lot of people into cutting the roof off their Daytona coupes. Being a Ferrari and a pretty rare one it will always command more than a slant.

[trader220]

Originally Posted by kilodawg

Enthusiasts develop their appreciation for cars over time. You can't judge what will be collectible in the future based on a 12 year old's opinion today. If you could 356 prices would be declining as few people 50 or younger would care. It takes time to appreciate the bigger picture and that is where the slants will shine some day. People who care about the history of the marque more so than the history of TV will figure it out. It doesn't take too many anyway because there aren't many real ones around.....

You opinion as has mine has been noted on this board about this topic. I seriously doubt they'll ever rocket significantly over a non slant model.