Value of a slant nose conversion? - Page 4

trader220 · 11-05-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by snbush67

Lots of misinformation in this thread. The car is not a "Narrow Body" it has SC fenders early cars were Narrow, granted a full conversion probably should have included a wide-body kit.

The car also has a later engine out of a cab, look at the the pics, so it has had some upgrades.

Its been stated many times the motor is out of a Carrera, there is no telling if it was out of a cab as you stated. "Narrow body" is a generic phrase not specific to any particular car. You may refer to only the early cars as "narrow body" while others will associate the phrase with non turbo bodied cars as is the case here. So where is the misinformation, or "lots" of misinfo?

snbush67 · snbush67's Garage

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Originally Posted by trader220

Its been stated many times the motor is out of a Carrera, there is no telling if it was out of a cab as you stated. "Narrow body" is a generic phrase not specific to any particular car. You may refer to only the early cars as "narrow body" while others will associate the phrase with non turbo bodied cars as is the case here. So where is the misinformation, or "lots" of misinfo?

Oops! I missed the one time it was mentioned in this thread that the motor was a 3.2. must have skimmed over it. As far as the lots of misinfo, I overstated my point, thanks for pointing that out, and I understand the reference to Narrow body VS Carrera and SC, don't agree with it but understand, and I'm fine with us and whoever else disagrees, again thank you for pointing that out. As far as the motor being out of a Cab...it is obvious, but has no bearing on this response.

trader220 · 11-09-2009, 06:12 AM

The add for the car clearly says its a carrera motor and its been mentioned. WHat makes you think its out of a cab?

WERK I · WERK I's Garage

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Originally Posted by trader220

The add for the car clearly says its a carrera motor and its been mentioned. WHat makes you think its out of a cab?

The damper on the engine console is used only on cab cars.

trader220 · 11-09-2009, 06:47 AM

Sorry I didnt even notice it, your are correct, sorry for not picking it up myself, I must be slipping.

kilodawg · kilodawg's Garage

Hi trader,

Sorry I haven't replied been on vacation in Germany and Belgium. I would agree that to a generic commodities trader my perspective seems skewed you have taken a couple of shots at me and that's fine. I'm sure I spoke too generally. However please understand that from my own experience in the USA and overseas the factory slant circle for premium cars is small but the people are out there and the cars get the premium if the condition is right. So perhaps my big error was trying to relate this group to the larger 930 owners group. Also to be clear I'm only referring to original factory production cars not conversions whether factory sanctioned or not. You of course can disagree but that doesn't change my personal experience. Cheers.

daleflesburg · 11-16-2009, 07:51 AM

I looked at the pictures posted by the St. Louis dealer. The dealer states 1980 Carrera. (I think that 1980 cars were all SC's). It is not a Carrera.

The date of mnf is 79. The engine lid has Carrera script. (Aftermarket trim piece)

The engine at least has a 3.2 L induction system on it. (A conversion to something??) Who can tell?

I see a damper on the engine. and why did they put them in Cabrolet models? Does it tell something about the year the engine was built?

The slant nose is an aftermarket because the slant nose cars made by the factory were all 930 models with "turbo flairs". The front valence is from a Carerra.

With all that said, its pictures are pretty. It looks nice. The interior looks like a 79.

I saw a slant nose on a Carrera Coupe 20 years ago. A fellow had hit a deer and when they rebuilt the car he bought slant nose front fenders from a shop in Golden, IL. The car really looked nice. I happen to like the stock fenders with H1 or H4 headlights my self, but the slant nose cars look good too.

I would think that 4 years ago it might have brought $20,000. In todays economy, maybe $15K, maybe not. You cannot buy much of a 911 that does not need a new paint job for under $15 or $20K, and just price out a paint job.... Have a leakdown test done on the engine, and have it checked by a independent garage in St. Louis for obvious things. If you like the looks of the car, go to St Louis to see it, and take it for a test drive, and take $15K with you just in case you like it. You might drive it home.

Just know that it is a custom, and the "serial number correct crowd" will always turn their nose up at it. But the real question is, is it a nice car, was it well done, or is their a lot of bondo and paint covering up a lot of sins, does it have obvious engine or mechanical problems, and then, do YOU like it?

I'm going to redo a 74 coupe. With a 86 3.2 engine and trans. By the time it is painted and I am driving it, I will have over 20K invested. Worth it? Who knows?

99 Boxster · 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by gsmith660

a narrowbody slantnose doesn't look quite right.

You're right. Ugly ass Porsche, should be destroyed.

Someone once told me that his slant nose porsche was so rare and that it's worth over $20,000... I said I wouldn't buy it for $10k and that the reason you don't see slant noses very often is because they're hidden in people's garages for fear of embarrassment. Rather drive a 944.

99 Boxster · 04-11-2013, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by daleflesburg

The dealer states 1980 Carrera. (I think that 1980 cars were all SC's). It is not a Carrera.

Sellers like to throw around the word Carrera, Turbo and Spyder a lot... They'll add one upgrade (like rims or something) and try to pass it off as a Turbo even though there is no Turbocharger to be seen. Same thing with Carrerra... Or "GT3", that's a good one too.

daleflesburg · 04-11-2013, 04:57 PM

Joe Bob, The point is this was an ad about a car for sale. They called it a Carrera. They implied the car had a factory slope nose. Neither was true. False advertising. That is what had most of us upset.

daleflesburg · 04-11-2013, 05:11 PM

Joe Bob, What part of lying about a car that is for sale is bullcrap? I guess you can call a VW a Porsche now that VW owns Porsche if you want to, but it is not what VW calls them so, and until they do it is misleading to call a VW a Porsche when you advertise it for sale. You can call an old 356A a Carrera 4 cam if you want to, but it is a lie. If you go back and read my post from 09, you will see that I said I saw a slant nose on a Carrera Coupe 20 years ago. A fellow had hit a deer and when they rebuilt the car he bought slant nose front fenders from a shop in Golden, IL. The car really looked nice. I happen to like the stock fenders with H1 or H4 headlights my self, but the slant nose cars look good too. I also said, If you like the looks of the car, go to St Louis to see it, and take it for a test drive, and take $15K with you just in case you like it. You might drive it home.

rnln · 04-11-2013, 05:33 PM

This is true. My personal experience that I never liked the slantnose, factory or not. My wife and I went far for a test drive. We didn't bring cash, because we thought the deal won't go through the first time for this kind of car, and asking price wasn't low. We were wrong. We were in love the minute he pulled the cover off. After test drove, I couldn't not negotiate a penny. Please note that I test drive several before this one. We went back gather cash from different sources and show up at his house on the same night. Finish the deal at 2am. Why? I afraid someone else will take it before the morning.

Oh yeah. I have been very embarrass to own my slantnose :lol:

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Originally Posted by daleflesburg

... go to St Louis to see it, and take it for a test drive, and take $15K with you just in case you like it. You might drive it home.