Color change?

[wurls]

Has anyone ever changed the color of their Pcar from the original color to something esle?
How much does that have an effect on the resale value of the car?
What kinda bucks would someone be looking at to completely repaint a 911?

[village idiot]

click the link in my sig,
I didn't ever give a thought about resale value as I bought the car to enjoy and modify in my own way.

If someone likes it enough to make an offer I might be tempted to sell..............

As far as cost, it really depends on how detailed a job you want done. Glass out, bare metal including the interior surfaces will cost many times more than your average sand/tape/paint job.

[Mountainman]

I changed colors when I restored my Porsche last year. Porsche black to Porsche orange, both stock colors in 1976. Not a second of regret, the car looks fantastic in its new paint. No concern about the resale as the quality of the job will sell itself.
Having said that changing colors will require more labor. I painted it myself after completely disassembling the car and with quality paint products ( PPG ) it still cost about $1100. Good paint is not cheap. I cannot say with certainty but to take it to a paint shop, take apart the car, prime, paint, color sand and re-assemble I don't see how you could pay less than $5000. At that point you need to put in all new rubber and that will cost . If you get that far you will have a lot of new nuts, washers ,bolts and misc. hardware to replace while you have the vehicle apart,, perhaps a new headliner while the glass is out and even a new dash to replace the cracked one you hate staring at.
Daunting ? No, just expensive. Well worth it in my book ( just don't ask my wife the same question as you will not receive the same enthusiastic response )

Good luck - Dennis

[kiwiokie]

I changed colors on my '83SC. I recommend starting with a black car unless you want to take it back to a tub before painting. That way you can get away without painting the engine bay and front trunk and the silver VIN sticker with the perforations does not look so odd. Not sure if it will ultimately affect the resale value of my car. Certainly it looks a whole lot better now than before it was painted blue!

[Hesse James]

Hello,

have you ever thought of foiling your car? It can be done cheaper than a repaint, it is removable and you keep your original color (and value). Of course it is better to have a similar color to start from, because door sills will look silly when they are yellow and the car is red.

[w21055]

I changed mine from Red to Green, but the paint code in the door is L999 which is paint to sample so if you can not find the original paint anywhere I don't know how you woudl know what color it is suppose to be.

No regrets by the way and resale was not in my mindset as paying for a paint job is hard to recoup anyway.


Phillip

[JeremyD]

depends on the car - for an early car (1965-1973 1/2) , especially an E or S I would say stick to the original color.

For other more common cars - I would not hesitate to make it the color I choose.

[ghost1001]

I will be going from white to grey….not sure if I would change for color alone, but I am stripping the car for a full rebuild anyway.

I have estimates from 6k-10k USD for a full strip to bare metal and painting on the inside and outside with high quality paint.

I spoke with a reputable source that did a beautiful well documented project here and the cost of prep (not to metal) and respray of original color was 6k.

Now, I stripped the interior myself to metal, and will have the shop that is doing work for me paint the car. They will sand and prep the etx, as needed. I trust the shop and I am not looking for concourse quality. I am using a non-metalic single stage and we settled on 4.5k including modifications to some of the body work.
My wheels and trim are at the powder coater $500 for all.

I personally think the old adage of you get what you pay for applies. There is a ton of work in the prep. If not done properly the defects may not be revealed for months or years. I would ask to see the car at various stages to confirm that all of the proper steps are taken.

Resale value is a toss up....I find it hard to belive you could recoup the 8k spent on a good paint job. So yes, unless you have a rare car.....you will most likely lose money if you try to resell.

If you post what color to/from and the condition of your current paint we could be more specific....as far as do or dont.

[ghost1001]

Just looked at your signature.....if you are thinking of painting that car.....I would re spray in silver. For resale value I think silver ranks right up there with black and white.

Probably the most classic Porsche color…..

[euro911sc]

FULL color change is a *****tload of work. Everything has to come off the car. Then it has to be prepped and block sanded which includes stripping the under coat and engine bay. Lots and lots of hours just to get a fair/decent job. If the car was black I guess you can leave some parts alone...

In my case, the car was a victim of a sand and spray (some areas were not even scuffed!!). Exterior is midnight blue and the rest of the car is wine red metalic... it sux balz. When I re-paint my car I will be returning it to wine red metallic even though I am not too fond of that color simply because it will then match the rest of the car that was not changed the 1st time.

I have spoken with a few painters and if I do 90% of the prep/strip/parts removal I can get it final prepped and shot for about $12-2000. so if you want to save some bucks, go find a guy who will allow you to do most of the work and then bring the car to him for final work and paint. The you get to do ALL the re-assembly! Don't forget to budget something for parts that break when you try to take them off the car...

Also, price is heavily dependent on paint quality choice... $600 to $6000... just for materials.

enjoy!

-Michael

[Porsche-O-Phile]

Some doofus in my car's history changed it from Mexico Blue to black (bleah!)

I'm takin' it back to its former glorious blue goodness!

[benp911]

I am going from oak green to baltic blue. I am doing the RSR conversion and really the only things not touched will be the doors so since the car needs an entire repaint now why not go for my favorite pcar color

[wurls]

Originally Posted by ghost1001

Just looked at your signature.....if you are thinking of painting that car.....I would re spray in silver. For resale value I think silver ranks right up there with black and white.

Probably the most classic Porsche color…..

Nope, not for my car that I have now, but a turbo I may be getting. The color is holding me back. It is a Forest Green 930 with a tan interior. My car I have now is silver with black leather interior which I absolutely love. It just isn't a wide body. So, therein lies my dilemma...the body style of Pcar I want is available for a trade with my car, but the green is still a hard pill to swallow.
That's the reason I was asking about painting...to see if getting this 930 and painting it a better color would be worth it.

[sc_rufctr]

Originally Posted by Hesse James

Hello,

have you ever thought of foiling your car? It can be done cheaper than a repaint, it is removable and you keep your original color (and value). Of course it is better to have a similar color to start from, because door sills will look silly when they are yellow and the car is red.

I Googled "Foiling your car" and came up with this...

3M foiling changes the color of your car without repainting or damage – lasts up to 4 years!*|*Gear Diary

Seems like a good product with a limited market.
Not sure how it would look on a classic car.

[Coldface]

This is what I am planning to do:
- I take the car apart completely. This includes engine coming out, glass, carpets, etc, etc. I may even take the suspension parts out as well.
- A have a sandblaster take old paint off. $600-850 depending on what I decide to do with the undercoat.
- I buy epoxi primer, PPG paint and 2 gallons of clear coat for ~ $1000.
- I rent a paint booth for $150.
- I rent a painter guy at $100 and hour for 2 hours. He paints the car.
- I put everything back together.

Total cost ~ $2000, Maybe $2500 if I go crazy on the undercoat.

Or you can take the car apart and bring it to Maaco for a complete one stage respray for $300 (this one will last you about 6 month of shine) or $700 for base+clear, which will be a bit better. Or as an alternative, you can negotiate with them to put a more expensive clear coat on for maybe additional $200, so you get the shine.

Sergei

[daniel911T]

My car came to me in a wrong color. Someone had painted my '69 in an '80s very bright white.

I have no idea what the original color was, and the paint code plackard is missing. I decided to go with an original '69 color that was close to what was on it at the time, Light Ivory.

I am still a bit curious what the original color of my car was, but in a factory color with it's chrome restored, it's a beautiful car.

My point: if you already have an incorrect color, there is a lot more margin for error, and it's a lot less work if you go to a factory color that is close to whatever is there now.

just my $0.02.

Dan

[grizzfan]

My 1973 1/2 911T that I purchased this past Spring came in a glorious Guards Red and an immaculate paint job at that. After posting a couple of pictures to solve a question about my battery, HarryD on this forum stated that GR was not the original color but green was. I check the paint code in the driver's door and sure enough it turned out to be Irish Green! But the paint job was well done and is still in very fine condition. I'm not interested in resale value, at least not yet.

Tom

[Wil Ferch]

FWIW... I'm helping buyers in Europe to buy Porsches from America ( as odd as it sounds, we often have very good-to-excellent older cars around that are not that prevalent in Europe).

An oft-cited deal breaker is if the car had a color change from original. Re-spray done to high-standards in the original color is often OK. As long as we're on this tangent.... high miles ( regardless of condition), and lack of documented maintenance history is also an automatic deal breaker. Rust , for sure, is too.

Just something to consider if you are even *talking* resale value....make sure you understand that the domestic and foreign markets look at stuff like this a bit differently.

[drcoastline]

My car has been 4 different colors and is about to be get it's fifth.

It came off the line in Bitter Chocolate.
It was later painted Nutmeg Brown Metallic.
Then in 1989 Guards Red.
In 1991 Mercedes Midnight Blue.
Currently it is undergoing a refurbishment and will be changed to Audi Moro blue pearl.

[Brian 162]

My car had a colour change before I bought it.
Originally it was deep metallic brown. The previous owner painted the car red.
I had everything removed, the paint stripped, and now the car is yellow (Audi colour).
When I had the engine out 2 years ago I stripped the engine bay and painted it to its present colour.
The past winter I removed everything from the trunk area and re-painted the trunk area as well.
Whether it has an effect on re-sale value, who knows.