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I think I found a '64 911 in my backyard

I was looking through a few cars I have in my yard and I noticed on one of them that the rear engine panel where the decals go looked a little funny. When I bought it a few years ago it was titled a '67 912 and I never thought twice about it, but under the dash the serial number is:

300191

Under the hood above the gas tank, the serial number was removed. Whoever did that must have forgotten about under the dash. I believe this was the 191st Porsche 911 off the assembly line. The numbers under the dash are clearly stamped, it's the paint that's chipped.

How rare is this?


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here are some bigger pictures.



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I think I see engine mounts in the rear corners, indicating its a 911, not a 912, so you may be onto something. Is the car at all restorable? If so, it would be rare and valuable.
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Yeah, the 911 engine mounts are still there, it was never a 912. The car is very rust free, just needs some front pan work. It was originally silver too.

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Dave,

I suspect so.
I just emailed the 232 group.
We will see.

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Use a Strainer the next time you go to the bathroom (So you can catch that Horse Shoe you are carrying! Even Porsche may want that car
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why can't stuff like that just appear in my backyard?

more pics of the whole thing please!

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a lot more pics! Please! Exciting!!

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What, doesn't everybody walk out and make finds like this in their backyard? Just this morning I fixed some coffee, wandered out back and spotted the fabled 7th Shelby Daytona Coupe resting under a pile of old mattresses.
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Wow. Are you Irish?

Great find...
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What's the 232?

I will post more pictures later tonight. Are there any other areas on the car that might distinguish it as a '64? The flat rear panel is what caught my eye. At first I thought it was a hack repair, but I guess it was done by the factory.

Does anyone have any idea of the value of this car?

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Does this mean someone else could be rolling on that VIN?

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Under the hood above the gas tank, the serial number was removed.
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That's what I was thinking, that serial number is missing, so there might a 300191 somewhere that isn't the real thing.
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Dave, I'm guessing the "232" are confirmed owners of '64s, a select group that you may have just joined.

Memo to self: Get a better backyard.

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That's what I was thinking, that serial number is missing, so there might a 300191 somewhere that isn't the real thing.
If this is true. What would happen?

This was probably done decades ago. The "re numbered" one could be long gone.
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That's what I was thinking, that serial number is missing, so there might a 300191 somewhere that isn't the real thing.
If 191 were "cloned," it is not a known car, i.e. not in any data base, record of early cars. The number hasn't been "seen" before in any groups or registries that I'm aware of, or on the internet. There is a fair chance that, for example, the primary serial number is missing because the car was scrapped, a salvage vehicle, and removing the number was the official way of scrapping it....little did they know or care in those days of the numerous other places and details that related to the VIN..thank goodness!

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That would be great news for Dave.

These "Antiques Roadshow" threads are excellent.

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Dave, sounds like you just hit the lottery.

Check the headlamp buckets, the inside of the doors and the vertical rib on the engine lid. All should carry the "191" stamp. That said, those pieces may have long been separated from the car.

It's a blessing and a curse, what you have is a car which will require a $100,000 restoration, but when it's done, it will be significantly more than that. Good luck and GREAT find!
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Get that sucker indoors ASAP!
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Dave,

I need 6 numbers for the California Lottery.

God in shinning on you brother.

Best of luck.

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