Rant: Is painting a new muffler with the PROPER paint THAT difficult?

[jimbauman]

So I installed a new Bursch muffler the other day - it arrived all shiny black... I assumed it was coated with high heat muffler paint... well.... here we are a couple of days later ... and it's all burnt off except where I imagine the muffler is coolest...

What's up with THAT?



Looks fabulous, doesn't it?

[porschenut]

It has a very nice dairy cow look.

[jimbauman]

Exactly. This is the look I'm trying to achieve...



JB

[Gunzel]

Its a muffler, who cares what it looks like?

[sc_rufctr]

You could try repainting it with something like VHT Flame proof paint.

VHT FlameProof™ Coating

(I know I'm stating the obvious)

[RWebb]

one reason people make mufflers out of stainless and even Ti now

Eastwood has a non-paint protectant you can apply

[jimbauman]

Thx - I'll look into those paints. It's not really about looks - it's about longevity and preventing it from rusting away. Stainless is certainly the only option if $$$ are of little concern.

JB

[flatsixjunky]

Originally Posted by porschenut

It has a very nice dairy cow look.

Lol, you made my day.

[m110]

Originally Posted by RWebb

one reason people make mufflers out of stainless and even Ti now

Eastwood has a non-paint protectant you can apply

I have a friend who made his own muffler from Ti but I didn't know they commercially available. Is there a 911 version?

[m110]

Not trying to steal this thread......Bursch mufflers certainly are bare bones, work well, but not known for attention to detail....and cheap.

As far as Ti mufflers go (I asked), it appears Porsche had a Ti system on the first 997 GT2 made by Akrapovic. They are available for new water cooled cars.
Porsche - Akrapovic
At $10K per system I'm guessing the finish is pretty good.

[Grady Clay]

Originally Posted by Gunzel

Its a muffler, who cares what it looks like?

On a 911, you can SEE the muffler from a following car. This is important because most other cars end up following. You don’t want to distract the following driver with dairy cow motif and he fails to brake with you.


I’m in favor of the gray paint – even over SS. The VHT is very close in color. S*t*o*d*d*a*r*d has paint that is exactly correct. Keep in mind that both these paints cure with temperature to a slightly different color. During this process the hotter pieces will cure first. Eventually the parts end up all the same. Some cure them in a furnace (your oven doesn’t get that hot). Uncured paint is soft and very easy to scratch.

Best,
Grady

[turbobrat930]

How about just take off the muffler, take it or ship it to a ceramic coating place. (jet-hot, performance coatings, etc) then when it gets back, it will always look great... For a muffler, it shouldnt cost more than 125 bucks or so....

[dicklague]

My Bursch has been on my 1973 for 10 years.....cheap or not they are great.

Sounds good and very rugged. I was going to replace with a newer one and then I just felt why??


I shoot it with Rustoleum satin black with I don't like the way it looks.

[tobluforu]

Here's a pic of my muffler after I had it ceramic coated last year and it still looks brand new. But CC is not very durable as it scratches super easy. This cost me 70 bucks to CC.

[Porsche-O-Phile]

I posted about this a couple of years ago - same issue. The black paint that Bursch uses is definitely not heat resistant. I suspect it's used only to protect the metal during storage/shipping.

As a point of note, I was extremely disappointed that my Bursch showed up packaged wrapped up in newspapers - CHINESE newspapers. They are most definitely not manufactured here.

I stripped away all the crap black paint and applied a coat of POR-20 high-heat metallic paint. It's been fine.

[RWebb]

Originally Posted by m110

I have a friend who made his own muffler from Ti but I didn't know they commercially available. Is there a 911 version?

have only seen them for the new 996/7 cars

I'd like to meet your friend tho!

[stormmaster]

I use Eastwood manifold paint on mine....even though it is stainless...I didnt want to have to polish it all the time....much easier to take care of.

[JeremyD]

I use 2000 degree VHT paint - I've had better results with that then Jet Hot coating - as the previous poster said the Jet Hot coating / ceramic coating is very soft.

[SCWDP911]

need more cowbell...

[Trackrash]

I had my whole system aluminum metal sprayed. It looks cool and lasts. Not as expensive as ceramic. It is a rough dull finish. It still looks good after 20 years.