New 959 Project - Replacing the Suspension Accumulators... - Page 2

sl951 · 05-20-2010, 04:22 PM

How do you like your scissor-lift? Does it raise and lower precisely? i.e., like a typical hydraulic jack where the user can control the speed as it lowers.

Does the lift provide enough room, height as well as general lift clearance, to drop an engine and transmission?

Thanks,
Steve

Weaver · 05-20-2010, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bart1

I don't think anybody thinks the 959 is the best looking car on the planet, but the technology, especially considering the age, is incredible.

Oh, I don't know. I really like it in road racing trim myself.
The 961

Flieger · Flieger's Garage

Unfortunately, the 961 had to be run at a higher-than-optimal ride height, which compromised the looks. I think it had to do with a flat undertray regulation. I will have to review the Norbert Singer book.

layzee · layzee's Garage

Remind me not to get a flat in a 959!

Thanks for the update Wayne, keep em coming.

Wayne 962 · Wayne 962's Garage

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

That is a pretty amazing car. Wayne, you are probably one of just a handful of guys that DYI on a 959.

As far as I know, I'm the only one who owns one and works on it themselves.

Wait until you guys see the next project car!

-Wayne

Wayne 962 · Wayne 962's Garage

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Originally Posted by bart1

I don't think anybody thinks the 959 is the best looking car on the planet, but the technology, especially considering the age, is incredible.

It's *way* better looking in person. It does not photograph well at all.

-Wayne

Wayne 962 · Wayne 962's Garage

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Originally Posted by MikeD94

Wayne,
Thanks for sharing your project on your 959 with us. About the planetary tool it's both ingenious and complicated! I was wondering how you keep the wheel from turning when you loosen the wheel nut but noticed that the planetary tool takes care of this problem.

Yes, it's specially machined to fit inside the inside edge of the wheel hub there. It's definitely one of the cooler tools I have. I had it sitting on my desk for a long time just because it was cool!

-Wayne

Wayne 962 · Wayne 962's Garage

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Originally Posted by sl951

How do you like your scissor-lift? Does it raise and lower precisely? i.e., like a typical hydraulic jack where the user can control the speed as it lowers.

Does the lift provide enough room, height as well as general lift clearance, to drop an engine and transmission?

Thanks,
Steve

I don't like it, and I don't recommend them. It's really only useful for working on the 959. The other cars won't fit over it, so you have to buy / build custom ramps to make it fit on top. Then, you risk falling off of the ramps, it's a huge pain. Plus the inside of the lift blocks the inside of the car, so you can't easily work on it.

I ordered one of these for the shop, it's not in yet:

It's a portable two-post lift, it's very cool, and I think it will be what I'm looking for here at home. You can easily unbolt it from the floor and stash it away or move it to another bay or another side of your garage.

-Wayne

Wayne 962 · Wayne 962's Garage

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Originally Posted by layzee

Remind me not to get a flat in a 959!

Thanks for the update Wayne, keep em coming.

The 959 had the best of everything in 1987 - including run-flat tires!

-Wayne

Wayne 962 · Wayne 962's Garage

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Originally Posted by ShakinJoe

Wayne,

Why are there crossover tubes on both top and bottom of that caliper?

Good question. The caliper has some crazy plumbing in the back there, I believe it's related to the very early ABS system on the car. I shot a picture of the backside:

I don't have time to depressurize the hydraulic system tonight, but I will probably be working on it tomorrow and over the weekend. I'll post pics!

-Wayne

Flieger · Flieger's Garage

Yikes!

Complex!

Zeke · 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Wayne at Pelican Parts

Now, with the car up in the air, you can spin the center lock nut off:

-Wayne

Help me here. Why won't a stout hex bar of the correct size attached to something similar to this work if the tool is lost.

I'm thinking a butterfly design would be the better way to go on the above to not bind the nut. Would it work? What an I missing?

Modify this?:

herr_oberst · 05-21-2010, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by milt

What an I missing?

torque multiplication?

Zeke · 05-21-2010, 03:22 PM

Found it.

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst

torque multiplication?

Did he say there were planetary GEARS in the thing?

herr_oberst · 05-21-2010, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by milt

Did he say there were planetary GEARS in the thing?

No, but it's one of those IIRC things; thats why I used the question mark - I'm not sure.

(But I'm pretty sure it is planetary gears multiplying the torque - it has to have like 300+ foot pounds? The CGT has the same setup.)

Zeke · 05-21-2010, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst

No, but it's one of those IIRC things; thats why I used the question mark - I'm not sure.

(But I'm pretty sure it is planetary gears multiplying the torque - it has to have like 300+ foot pounds? The CGT has the same setup.)

Yeah, he did say reducer earlier. Now I see why the tool is indexed into the wheel.

nevermind.

herr_oberst · 05-21-2010, 03:40 PM

Look what I found at harbor freight!

Zeke · 05-21-2010, 03:59 PM

I could have used one of those after taking my truck in for tires. They must have rattle-jacked the nuts on @ 175 ft. lbs.!

Now. let's see.... we make an indexing five point insert and we are now 959 mechanics!

Emission · Emission's Garage

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr

I've said this before but that car is so well engineered it makes you wonder if a car like this will ever be built again.

Thanks Wayne. I always look forward to these updates.

I rode in Porsche's 918 Spyder prototype last week in Germany. It is engineered equally as well.

- Mike

P.S. - I came across this thread while doing research for my story.

Wayne 962 · Wayne 962's Garage

Wow, it's been almost 3 years since I started this. In my defense, I've been pretty darn busy (we moved the entire company to a new location, which is what initially distracted me). I am happy to say that tonight I started working on this again. I'm headed up to Magnus' place in a week or so, so I figured it would be good motivation to get this thing back on the road and running again. I'll post some pictures relatively soon - I got the two front accumulators replaced out (2nd time) again tonight (the experimental ones didn't work out too well on someone else's car). More info on that coming soon.

-Wayne