changed starter, but now no run

[SCWDP911]

she's aliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiivvvvvvvvvv vvvvvvvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee... muuhahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

can you tell I am a little excited? I almost think I should make the cause a contest to see who guesses it besides my good buddy Scott (Don) Gilbert. The man never ceases to amaze me. I also really appreciate everyone else's help as well. This was a strange one. I can say though that through this process I am now one pre-G50 911 starter changing fool!

I will leave the cause open to guesses for just a little bit and then I have a couple of questions regarding the matter...

[SCWDP911]

I don't know how it happened, but apparently my no-start condition was due to the car being flooded (with fuel). I described what was happening to my buddy Scott and he said it sounded like the car was flooded and to try cranking for 10 seconds with gas pedal floored. She fired up about 8 seconds into it and smoked up my shop a bit but then clearness prevailed and sheis alive once more.

So, my next ponderance is why did she flood from sitting during the starter replacement. I promise I pumped no gas during initial start as I was not even in the car. Could this have anything to do with finding my throttle linkage disconnected this morning while searching for the cause?

Ending on a happy note: no more push starts for me! And no more driving around the parking lot until I could find a suitable incline.

[ischmitz]

Yes, you are correct, if it is cranking you should be O.K. Go back to the basics. Make sure you have spark at the correct time (read: timing light) at all (or at least most) barrels and then verify the correct amount of fuel. If the spark checks out you could squirt starter fluid into the intake and check if that makes it fire up if you suspect there isn't enough fuel.

On second thought - maybe you hooked up that secondary injector up wrong and it is now active all the time with the key in the ON position thereby flooding the engine. Take a spark plug out and verify it isn't wet.

Ingo

[SCWDP911]

car is running fine presently Ingo. I have started it several times this afternoon iwth no issues. During the starter replacement, the battery was not connected... that is why I am having a hard time understanding how it flooded in the first place.

[ischmitz]

I didn't read you previous post. You are asking why the engine was flooded:

Could this have been the aux. injector that is hooked up to the starter. It could have been going all the time simply flooding the engine. It is supposed to be hooked to the same signal that activates the starter relay.

Ingo

[ischmitz]

So are there two spade connectors coming down to the starter? If so one is the aux injector. Maybe one of the spade terminals on the starter is at constant +12V?

[SCWDP911]

I believe it is as when I switched the two yellow wires on the two spade terminals, there was no change in result.

[SCWDP911]

Originally Posted by ischmitz

So are there two spade connectors coming down to the starter? If so one is the aux injector. Maybe one of the spade terminals on the starter is at constant +12V?

I think I see what you are saying now, between hooking battery back up initially and the first crank, the thing was dumping fuel if hooked to wrong (constant +12v) terminal. Maybe that is what happened. I will no more in the next few days I suppose as I drive it and see if it happens again.

Thanks for the thoughts.

[don gilbert]

hey Shane, just found the thread. If i would have read through it before you called I would be stumped. The only info i could gather from you on the phone (you heard how loud it was, big family gathering)was "wont start, has spark, i smell gas" glad its going again. It doesn't take much to flood a cis car on a warm day. The little yellow wire from the sol. goes straight to your cold start valvle, which get power EVERY time you crank , unless the temp switch on the left cam cover is OVER its 95 degree switching point. see ya, have fun