Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Porsche Forums > Porsche 911 Technical Forum


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Portugal
Posts: 1,513
Send a message via AIM to prebordao Send a message via Yahoo to prebordao Send a message via Skype™ to prebordao
Uneven steering feel

The cornering feel I get from my car is different on left and right corners.
When cornering left I feel I have to pull harder on the wheel, it's like the self-centering effect is stronger on left-hand corners.

Tire wear and pressures are the same side to side.
Could this be likely a steering alignment issue or uneven shock wear ?

Old 01-17-2011, 06:06 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Novato, CA
Posts: 4,740
An alignment is always the starting point for steering and handling issues. Without the alignment results, we would just be wasting your time.
Old 01-17-2011, 06:46 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Galivants Ferry, SC
Posts: 10,550
Might also check some "Assumptions"....like is the wheelbase exactly the same on the right side and left side of the car? Some cars I've checked had some surprises !
__________________
Wil Ferch
85 Carrera ( gone, but not forgotten )
Old 01-17-2011, 07:34 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
porsher
 
aston@ultrasw.c's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 1,747
Garage
X2 on getting the alignment numbers.

In my experience, big tire/service shops in the US have accurate alignment racks but they "Can't do porsches!"

Once I explain that I don't want them to make any adjustments, I just want the data they get with the program.
__________________
86 911 Race Car, with a few 993 bits in the boiler room
79 928 Race Car
88 928 Becoming a Race Car
Old 01-17-2011, 10:24 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Max Sluiter
 
Flieger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: So Cal
Posts: 19,644
Garage
Shocks would not do that. I would think alignment first and corner-balance second.
__________________
1971 911S, 2.7RS spec MFI engine, suspension mods, lightened
Suspension by Rebel Racing, Serviced by TLG Auto, Brakes by PMB Performance
Old 01-17-2011, 10:27 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Recreational User
 
porschenut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: A Mile High
Posts: 4,159
I concur; alignment and corner balance.
Old 01-17-2011, 10:36 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Portugal
Posts: 1,513
Send a message via AIM to prebordao Send a message via Yahoo to prebordao Send a message via Skype™ to prebordao
Thanks guys, alignment will be for a start.
Old 01-17-2011, 01:05 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Member 911 Anonymous
 
DRACO A5OG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Rancho Palos Verdes
Posts: 14,329
Garage
Send a message via Skype™ to DRACO A5OG
Corner Balance is a must for optimum cornering
__________________
'85 Carrera Targa
Factory Marble Grey/Black * Turbo Tail * 930 Steering Wheel* Sport Seats * 17" Fuchs (r) * 3.4 * 964 Cams * 915 * LSD * Factory SS * Turbo Tie Rods * Bilsteins * Euro Pre-Muff * SW Chip on 4K DME * NGK * Sienes GSK * Targa Body Brace
PCA/POC
Old 01-17-2011, 01:09 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Portugal
Posts: 1,513
Send a message via AIM to prebordao Send a message via Yahoo to prebordao Send a message via Skype™ to prebordao
I know there are many posts discussing this, but in a nutshell what is that corner balance aims to achieve ?
And you do it by tweaking the shocks, suspension heights ?
Old 01-18-2011, 01:38 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Max Sluiter
 
Flieger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: So Cal
Posts: 19,644
Garage
Ride heights.

It is like making a chair with one leg shorter than the other- not stable.

You want to distribute the weight "equally" among the tires since that gives maximum grip and the most consistant handling.

There are a few balances to shoot for:

1. Equal front weights- best threshold braking, good for dive-bomb passes while racing.
2. Equal diagonal weights- some say this gives the most consistent handling between left/right turn transitions.
3. Correct "percentages". This means that (for example) the front has 40% of the weight, and the right has 40% of the weight, so the front right weight is (2500 pounds / 4 tires ) x .4 x .4

You cannot usually get all of these at once since the mass distribution is not 50/50 front/rear- unless you have a really heavy battery, or 50/50 right/left- unless you have a passenger.
__________________
1971 911S, 2.7RS spec MFI engine, suspension mods, lightened
Suspension by Rebel Racing, Serviced by TLG Auto, Brakes by PMB Performance
Old 01-18-2011, 10:05 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Portugal
Posts: 1,513
Send a message via AIM to prebordao Send a message via Yahoo to prebordao Send a message via Skype™ to prebordao
And what can be done to adjust the weight distribution ? How it is done ?
Old 01-18-2011, 12:48 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
Max Sluiter
 
Flieger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: So Cal
Posts: 19,644
Garage
Ride height settings.

You screw the front adjusters up or down to change the "neutral" position of the torsion bar, and so therby how much it is strained at the ride height you want. In the rear, you need to re-index the torsion bars or else use the adjustable spring plates.

One corner gets "set" for a higher ride height and the other for "lower" and then you end up with the same total height, but different loads on the springs. You also might get uneven fender clearances.

__________________
1971 911S, 2.7RS spec MFI engine, suspension mods, lightened
Suspension by Rebel Racing, Serviced by TLG Auto, Brakes by PMB Performance
Old 01-18-2011, 05:29 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
 
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:53 AM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.