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gint 01-13-2013 11:14 AM

I like the trim ring. Looks... art deco-ish, in a good way.

speedo 01-21-2013 06:29 PM

weather has warmed up here...time to open up the garage
 
Last monday morning at 6:15 am in was a brutal minus 13 F, and today it was 55 F...go figure. Hard not to get motivated. I finished up the paint on the front latch panel.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1358821325.jpg
And cleaned up...much better than where we started.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1358821380.jpg
Haven't seen this spagetti in over a year. Usually this gets wrapped up to go to the sand blaster....and he adds another 4-5 lbs of media to it. Nasty when unwrapped. This doesn't look great at first...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1358821518.jpg
Most of the wiring needed to be re-wrapped, but it wasn't too bad. All cleaned up and repositioned.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1358821586.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1358821609.jpg
Feeling better about this as I go along.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1358821656.jpg
Looking pretty clean
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1358821689.jpg

I am looking for longhood 70-71 targa stuff...I can't find a box that I put this stuff in when I disassembled it.
floorboards
washer resevoir and pump
chrome driver bumperette with rubber (that doesn't need rechroming)
horn grills (ditto on the rechroming)

If you have some of this stuff...please pm me. I have a lot of SWB-LWB parts I am willing to trade.
Thanks

Speedo

rennch 01-21-2013 07:30 PM

Lars, I think I have a reservoir and a pump. Assuming I don't keep it for myself. :)

Did you just rewrap with electrical tape?

proffighter 01-22-2013 02:13 AM

Hey Speedo

Nice color, looks like the same my car is (or better was until repaint):

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1358849592.jpg

speedo 01-28-2013 05:18 PM

More small steps...we need rubber dear
 
Just ordered a rubber package...partnered with a buddy (restoring a coupe) to get a small break. His bill was $900+ and mine was $1600+...excluding the soft window and tonneau. Targa rubber is expensive. SWT rubber is more expensive...haycait911 was right about targas :rolleyes:
So the weather warmed up here (strange to get 60 degree F weather in the mountains in January :eek: and I was able to get a couple small things done.
My four wheel drive assistant.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1359343360.jpg
As long as I am standing up...no worries, she stays low. However as soon as I bend or kneel down to do anything ...she strikes. A total attention sponge and my face gets really cleaned. Don't get fooled by the reading glasses. :)
The brake resevoir is getting refreshed.
It was filthy, hoses were shot, and support bracket and clamps were very rusty. Cleaned sandblasted, painted, new hoses and ready to go...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1359420945.jpg
With the resevoir and lines installed...waiting for the gromets.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1359422031.jpg
Ouch, my neck!
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1359421136.jpg
I need an easy way to unpaint some of the under-dash wiring that my painter decided needed to be body color, without screwing up the surrounding area that was supposed to be painted...body color. I am finally proficient at reading early wiring diagrams, you know the ones that are color coded. Kind of hard to corelate the wires to their specific application when they are all the same Gemini Blue Metallic. Hey, he was thorough.

merbesfield 01-28-2013 06:46 PM

Saw this posted on S Registry by Jim B and thought you might like to see it. He said it was custom made by one of his clients I believe.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1359427449.jpg

Duckworth 02-12-2013 07:13 PM

Beautful wheel. Btw, Ace stocks a bin of hardware....referred to as black chrome for acorn nuts and bolts like that. Harley riders outfit with it.

http://i45.tinypic.com/ixa25s.jpg


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speedo 02-18-2013 07:20 AM

Cleaning up the trunk and working towards the dash.
 
I am reluctant to hurry up and put the gas tank in till the rest of the wiring under the dash is correctly placed. And the wiring won't get connected till the gauges are installed. But the gauges won't get installed till the dash is painted. Not having the gas tank in place means I can stand in the hole as opposed to kneel on the steel tank. The dash should have been painted early on by Mr Painter. Doing it now is risky...there is a lot to tape off. Heater/blower assembly also needs some work, missing rivets on the flange that the vent screws into. I like how the previous re-paint managed to paint the inside of this thing.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361199838.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361200026.jpg
The dash looks great, maybe I just leave it as is?
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361200205.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361200235.jpg
Don't think so...tape it off
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361200516.jpg
getting there
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361200566.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361200624.jpg
Instruments go in tomorrow...need to source the basketweave as mine is in good shape, but it has shrunk.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361200713.jpg

speedo 02-18-2013 07:44 AM

More...
 
With the dash painted and the instruments can installed with the help of the dash top not yet in place The speaker hole makes wiring a lot easier. Temptation is to put everything within reach back together quickly, which for me means inevitably...undoing something that was installed out of order. Amazing that these still exist after 42 years...time to glue them back up
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361201138.jpg
Wiper resevoir got sourced, cleaned and installed...note to self, find pump :rolleyes:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361201219.jpg
I don't need to stand in the smugglers box, so it gets closed up
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361201267.jpg
Spagetti that is ready...oh good, all the different colored wire is now the same color. Even my masking tape that was carefully marked to identify what wire goes where...is all Gemini Blue. Sweet! As long as all the wires are the same color, it shouldn't matter where they go right? :eek:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361201315.jpg
Waiting patiently.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361201388.jpg
I had to shake a ton of derbis out of the blower, and then "snake" a vacuum hose inside this thing...amazing how much crap had worked its way in there. Replacement flexible hose is needed between the left and right ducting that blows into the cabin footwells and the heater/blower.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361201650.jpg
I need one of these...in fact I could use both sides. The moisture has won..delamination has rendered these worthless for something other than a pattern, but I am not interested in learning how to bend plywood. If anyone has a pair from maybe a racecar project, let me know.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361201841.jpg

Speedo

B15 AAL 02-18-2013 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedo (Post 7237094)
Just ordered a rubber package...partnered with a buddy (restoring a coupe) to get a small break. His bill was $900+ and mine was $1600+...excluding the soft window and tonneau. Targa rubber is expensive. SWT rubber is more expensive...haycait911 was right about targas :rolleyes:
So the weather warmed up here (strange to get 60 degree F weather in the mountains in January :eek: and I was able to get a couple small things done.
My four wheel drive assistant.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1359343360.jpg

She looks like my old boy, but he's no spanner monkey.

http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2c8c126b.jpg

speedo 02-18-2013 06:19 PM

Not much more...
 
My tach needed a make-over...lets see how it turns out. Sanded out the peeling and awful looking trim paint and rattled it...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361238841.jpg
Major improvement
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361238949.jpg
The instrument cluster pre-gauges
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361239024.jpg
And post gauges...note the "anxious speedo" (to be replaced by another shortly).
Good news is I used up all of the Genmini Blue wires...sure is easier to wire when everything is the same color.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361239190.jpg
In a seperate post...I asked for pics of the fuel evaporative system in the front trunk area. I have my handwritten schematic...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361239440.jpg
But my pics of where and how the different containers are attached, went away with my dead laptop. I anybody wants to weigh in here with pics, I would appreciate it.

speedo 03-23-2013 06:41 PM

Back at it...
 
Minutia takes time. The aluminum dash fascia trim was rough. I know there are replacement kits, but I decided to straighten and polish what I had. TRE supplied the new basketweave...thanks Dave. Everything was disassembled, polished and new basketweave vinyl installed. The aluminum trim that was mangled around the radio orifice looks new. A bit of double stick tape and contact cement.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364086411.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364086463.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364086484.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364086501.jpg
Matt found me a one piece knee pad that I can recover. I still have a couple yards of vinyl ready to go...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364086609.jpg
Getting the pattern set up
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364086667.jpg
Cut and glued to start to stretch
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364086703.jpg
Almost finished up with the trunk...needed some logistics help with the "evaporative system" which I got from an separate post...almost there
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364086856.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364086980.jpg
Installed the gas tank seal and trial fitted the tank
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364087245.jpg
Tomorrow I finish up the evaporative system and install the charcoal canister, and gas tank and fuel lines for good. Finish up the knee pad, and install it and the dash, and the steering clamshell. I have a couple wire questions on the steering console to figure out. I have two brown/white female spades wires with coming out of the switches (turn signal and wiper). They need to find their male counterparts...and I didn't draw the schematics when I disassembled, or I can't find them. The single brown ground wire goes to the horn button. If any body knows off the top of their head what the brown/white wires go to...school me or I have to head back to the wiring diagrams.
It is very winter here...14 inches of snow in the last 24

Speedo

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speedo 03-25-2013 06:47 PM

If it were just a basic resto...for me
 
I wouldn't care about being correct. It is SO much easier to rebuild a non-correct car. So I am trying to put this targa back together correctly (well at least mostly correctly :p ) I am almost done with the kneepad...looks like it got attacked by paperclips
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364180835.jpg
New vinyl
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364261657.jpg
The SWB one piece and the later two-piece mounting holes are close...still need for the hole to be massaged a bit. Needs to snug up tight to the bottom of the polished trim, but still allow the glove box door to open.
Before...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364261795.jpg
And after...woohoo no ashtray!
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364261840.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364261870.jpg
Next up on the operating table...door tops, much easier than the knee pad.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364261922.jpg
Evaporative tidbits installed, still need the last piece of clear hose that comes off the tank. I'm glad the system works well...it was a PIA. Maybe the last time I reinstall the complete system :rolleyes:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364262115.jpg
Ordered the clear windshield, but the new dash has to go in first.
Another day or so and I can bring down the fenders to prep for hanging.

Speedo

Duckworth 03-28-2013 12:49 AM

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speedo 03-31-2013 06:57 PM

Mush, mush...
 
Took the door panels and early SWB door pulls to a little "old School" guy in Denver on Friday. The door pulls need to be recovered, and the door panels need to be reproduced. I could have gone with Appbiz...but I don't want to go RS on the doors. A couple other names out there have complete panels, but I gave the local older guy a chance. Seems like a decent guy, good workmanship, and he certainly needed the money. The big name in Denver seems to be AutoWeave, but they were a few weeks out and four times the price. Sometimes you get what you pay for...we'll see. I finished the door top trim, and started to work on unraveling the rear harness. The console is pretty nasty.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364780736.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364780785.jpg
Not sure I like the cut wires and the jury-rigged fuse holder
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364780842.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364780864.jpg
I need to clear all this stuff off and repaint the console
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364780943.jpg
The rear lid looked great on the outside...my painter didn't prep the inside of the lid. When he shot it, he painted over the residue (oil etc) on the inside of the lid. Just nasty. I had to be careful as I cleaned and prepped the inside of the lid and re-shot primer
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364781181.jpg
Tomorrow it gets body color and goes back on the car.
This slow stuff drives me nuts. I ordered the windshield and need to get the A pillars ready for the install. Front fenders are coming...not soon enough.

Speedo

speedo 04-07-2013 06:14 PM

Breaking tradition...
 
I am supposed to be working backwards from the front of the car. I needed some accomplishment in the rear. Took this mess apart to clean it up.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365382635.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365382702.jpg
Cleaned up and ready to reassemble
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365382777.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365382844.jpg
And installed...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365382956.jpg
Still need to ID this stray wire off the condensor
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365383143.jpg
Oil tank installed
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365383420.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365383469.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365383517.jpg
Tail-lights next....
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365383571.jpg

Nico911 04-07-2013 06:26 PM

I admire so much guys like you Speedo who are able to do so much by themselves. Great job.

merbesfield 04-07-2013 06:54 PM

Insane dedication. Electronics cleaned up well.

speedo 04-08-2013 06:40 PM

Onward...
 
Few more small items...Rich supplied me with some floorboards that simply needed the hardware moved over.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365470154.jpg
As I am going against the grain and using SWB armrests vs the correct 70-71 armrests (don't get me going on why I dislike the robust, hardy, stout,:rolleyes: ineffectual) cardboard door pockets. I like the streamlined early handles, with the long elastic/bungee pleated pockets. I am not an upholsterer. I have completed a couple amateur steering wheel recovers, and I will recover knee pads and door tops...but I will have my door pockets made. The local "go-to" Porsche upholsterer was 4 weeks out and wanted BIG $$ to make a couple door panels for me. So, I went out on a limb and contacted an old school shop in Denver to make my panels. I gave the guy my 70 (shrunk) original door cards, an 83 door, and a pair of 67 door handles. He was thoroughly confused. I needed to get him some dimensions...basically how the early door handles attach to the early doors, and how the early door stampings compare to a later (SC) stamping. So without going into much detail, as I am probably the only one backdating interior door panels at this point...here are the two internal door skins side by side.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365471025.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365471053.jpg
The holes for the armrests are in the same places...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365471110.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365471146.jpg
The primary difference is the early doors have spacers that "fur out" the attach points near the bellcrank for the release pivot
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365471246.jpg
Once I explained this to the upholsterer...we are a go. Panels will incorporate a trick basketweave insert thanks to a Randy Webb suggestion. We'll get them back on Friday and I will post pics.
Inch by inch...

Speedo

speedo 04-15-2013 05:00 PM

Installing targa trim sucks
 
There is a three piece (sewed together) stretch of vinyl that needs to be installed before the windshield can be refitted. It extends up the left A pillar, across the underside of the windshield crossbar and down the opposite A pillar.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366069668.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366069691.jpg
Mine was worn and dry rotted...I couldn't consider reusing it in good conscience. I called around and couldn't find anyone that could sell me the item. Bummer.
Worn areas
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366069855.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366069874.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366069964.jpg
It comes apart
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366070005.jpg
Not nice...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366070051.jpgI laid out the pieces and cut the blanks from fresh vinyl...but I am sure
I will have to get some sewing machine help to stitch the top to the two sides, as I don't think it can/should be done by hand.
Back end is wired with new lenses. I am starting to undislike the Gemini Blue car more as get closer to the end.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366070229.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366070259.jpg

Speedo


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