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speedo 04-15-2013 05:19 PM

Bit more in the interior...
 
This which has been rebuilt for a while..
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366070522.jpg
..."put me in coach"
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366070580.jpg
And the floorboards after being trimmed and reinforced get bolted down
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366070637.jpg
Pretty attractive handbrake assembly...and where does this wire go?
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366070793.jpg
The wire attaches to this piece of plastic behind the e-brake ratchet and goes to ground when the brake is pulled which illuminates the dash warning light. The grey overspray is from the etching primer wand that I dragged through the tunnel to seal it up. The rest of the debris is the grease from the factory and sand that found it's way into the tunnel from the sandblasting...this will all get freshened. Here is a better view of the wire attachment point
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366070920.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366071159.jpg
The brake assembly really needs to come out, get cleaned up.

So be it...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366071195.jpg
It is killing me that I have to keep ignoring this thing...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366071338.jpg
...waiting patiently for a year. No exciting stuff (engine-trannie-wheels-seats) gets installed till the minutia is done...must resist.

Speedo

merbesfield 04-15-2013 06:05 PM

Keep up the hard work and let the icing on the cake be your guiding light to finish.

vintagecarlover 04-15-2013 07:56 PM

im in albeit late.

Matt Monson 04-15-2013 10:31 PM

Smells like teen spirit.

speedo 04-21-2013 06:10 PM

The road goes on forever...or in my case the alley
 
I want to get the tunnel finished. Everything needs attention...the e-brake, the cold start lever, the heater lever.
The e-brake was disgusting...looks better as do the engine crossbar supports.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366591993.jpg
All this stuff needs to be cleaned up, re-assembled and installed
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366592046.jpg
There we go...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366592077.jpg
The nylon contraption that enables the cold start lever to work...was shot. The new one installed, needed to be adjusted. This is the capture on the throttle cable that can be adjusted. The throw of the lever is not much more than 1/2 to 3/4s of an inch throw.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366592142.jpg
That is done
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366592382.jpg
Moving on to the shifter...overspray form the etching-primer in the tunnel
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366592461.jpg
Next up. New bushings help the normally sloppy dogleg shifter work marginally better. Last time around I converted a 915 shifter to a gated dogleg shifter. This time I'll stick with the correct setup.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366592543.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366592700.jpg
Decision time...new knob, used knob or crappy looking knob.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366592821.jpg

speedo 04-21-2013 06:24 PM

The envelope please...
 
Of course...crowd favorite, the crappy looking knob. This one came from Florida courtesy of BVD. And to be fair, he represented it accurately. I'm just not sure how if Florida is so humid and is so toxic for exposed steel, how did this sucker dry out so completely :eek:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366593229.jpg
Like the wood wasn't done growing when it was captured and made into a shift knob. The badge and enamel are in nice shape
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366593345.jpg
But I need to address a few cracks...not to many, just five or six
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366593398.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366593428.jpg
Soaked the cracks overnight in superglue for wood, and called up
the vertical lathe...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366593472.jpg
Four grades of sand paper later
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366593608.jpg
And six coats of satin urethane
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366593735.jpg
That's done
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366593781.jpg

speedo 04-21-2013 07:01 PM

The problem with mixing early and later parts is compatibility
 
I am using later reinforced doors....with SWB door handles on the interior. The trigger for the SWB handles points up vs the later handles point down...I found this out earlier today. The door panels were due a week and a half ago. However, my upholsterer is obviously related to my painter...and the panels are "coming along", but not done. So...I need to get the hardware for the windows, and door latches in the doors.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366594796.jpg
This is the correct lock mechanism for the right door
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366595117.jpg
Left side is totally wrong...in fact I think it is actually the right side mechanism from a much later car...but we can work with it.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366595258.jpg
A new pivot is in order...modeled off the right side
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366595318.jpg
And a modification to the bracket that holds the pivot to the door
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366595378.jpg
And installed...works perfectly
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366595408.jpg
Complete left side assembled with the pivot pointing north
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366595479.jpg
To wrap things up, I need to disassemble and re-key the doors
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366595601.jpg
What a mess
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366595647.jpg
But done and ready to install and complete the doors
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366595719.jpg
Slow progress...but progress nonetheless. About half of the last snow storm has melted...phew!
But the next storm moves in tonight...12 inches in the next two days. Dreams of Targa California....

Speedo

vintagecarlover 04-22-2013 05:03 AM

Wow incredible talent

Racerbvd 04-25-2013 08:12 PM

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Matt Monson 04-25-2013 09:48 PM

With the lights on, we're still strangers...

speedo 04-27-2013 06:55 PM

I hate it when a simple task to avoid something...
 
Becomes a much larger task. In this case it was not "avoiding" significant expense. My doors and windows are later SC parts. Don't want power windows, so I had to settle on converting the early manual scissors to work with the later power window tracks. If I post the complex conversion it would help people backdating early cars, but it was a PIA. I would rather post the results. Not something the average shade tree mechanic will want to undergo, but as I couldn't find a thread detailing this conversion...maybe the details will help somebody. Let me know...it is all operational now and I wish I had stumbled on this thread...before I had to do it all from scratch.

Speedo

speedo 04-28-2013 07:20 AM

Soup to nuts or power to manual
 
The right regulator vs the wrong regulators (power)...sounds like I'm talking about gov't :rolleyes:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367158207.jpg
The sliders on the manual that need to be swapped out for the sliders on the power
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367158353.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367158391.jpg
Off they come
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367158462.jpg
And here is how we will attach them
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367158524.jpg
The screws and nuts need to be turned down to sit flush with the face of the round slider
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367158618.jpg
There we go
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367158668.jpg
And these go away
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367158704.jpg

vintagecarlover 04-28-2013 07:24 AM

Hey bro, Thx for posting this. Really! I was thinking about just exactly this subject on Friday nite LATE as I'm doing a backdate now and wondered 'do I use later or early doors and swap in guts'? What brought this to mind is I'm having an issue with the alarm going off in my SC driver (not the one I'm backdating) and was thinking hang a pr of 68 door that have manual cranks already or swap cranks into SC doors either way ill deal with the harness issues from SC to early and the factory alarms that are integroated into the harness so yes I'm very interested in swqpping early guts into later doors. Also the locking stuff, what and how to delete, if u did any picture taking or can impart ur knoledge I'd appreciate any and all help. Guessing its easier to leave harness and swap over cranks and internals and don't mess with factory alarm system which goes into fuel shut off ect. I would post it here for all but ill settle for pm'ing stuff to me. Regards and Thx for detail ur build.

speedo 04-28-2013 07:31 AM

Or just nuts
 
The manual regulator arms are too long...so we "take an inch off" please
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367158919.jpg
Assembly time
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367158963.jpgCheck the slider fitting on the manual regulator to the power track
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367159054.jpg
Trial fit
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367159117.jpg
Small problem....this track isn't ideally positioned. It is the right length, but in the wrong place. I need to close the two inch gap here...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367159209.jpg
By shifting the two inch excess here
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367159270.jpg
Drill out the welds, shift it back and re-weld it
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367159327.jpg
While I'm at it I need to figure out two neutral areas (where the sliders won't be) to create access for the sliders to be introduced to the track once inside the door
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367159460.jpg

speedo 04-28-2013 07:43 AM

Almost there
 
Shifted and welded back up
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367159708.jpg
The correctly sized slots
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367159746.jpg
Trial fit...dress rehearsal
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367159792.jpg
Bingo...works great and all my clearances were good
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367159855.jpg
Unfortunately my rubber gasket kit did not include window guide felt :( so I cannot install the guides just yet. Not a big deal as after close examination, I have some work to do on the vent window seal
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367159991.jpg
This ought to be fun
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367160033.jpg
But...these can get installed. Feel like I am treating myself
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367160099.jpg
Slowly but surely...

speedo 04-28-2013 07:30 PM

The vent windows need love...
 
I couldn't remember how they came apart...not that hard
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367201380.jpg
New meaning to... "laying down that fresh rubber". Sure does look nice :p
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367201499.jpg
This is the window track after 32 years...pretty much toast
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367201724.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367201852.jpg
Waiting on the replacement...
Meanwhile, the A pillar interior vinyl trim, needs to be replaced. I tried to trace out replacements from the original...that is trashed
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367202060.jpg
The new "sewed" trim...(no I did not sew it myself) :rolleyes: but I had some dirt on someone who sewed it for me
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367202164.jpg
Trial hang...I am not a huge fan of hanging headliners, so we will see how hanging this trim goes...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367202246.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367202390.jpg
As soon as I get the trim laid down, I can work on getting the targa top A pillar rubber installed...which means I can get the front windshield glass installed.
Don't let me forget to install the dash before the glass gets installed.

Speedo

speedo 05-06-2013 07:06 PM

Finishing up the doors
 
I have two sets of targa door tracks. I grabbed the pair with the lite green tint to the vent windows that match the door windows. After replacing the vent window seals...I realized that the chrome on the other set was better. Drats...so I switched and swapped parts to get decent chrome all the way around. The felt for the window channels came in (thanks host) and this was installed on the leading edge channel. The rear channel is a stubbie. The trailing edge of the window has a steel reinforced piece of plastic at the base, and I couldn't remember if the channel had felt or not. Clearly not many other people were knowledgeable in this area as I had plenty of views...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/748245-im-replacing-door-felt-need-measurement.html
But no replies. Turns out I was able to dig up and old thread on targas, and a similar question was asked...no felt at all in the rear channel. So with the mixed and matched pieces of the frankensteined vent window, and the rear window channel, we get the windows installed for good...or worse :rolleyes:
I hate replacing the rubber window squeegee in the aluminum outer door top trim as the rubber gets tighter and tighter over time. All the rubber trim is installed and it fits...
Door top aluminum trim goes next
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367891980.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367891997.jpg
Starting to look like it is supposed to look...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367892067.jpg
Now would be a good time to cycle the regulators to see if I get full range of movement...fortunately so. I did have a small "issue" with my alignment holes for the regulator, the holes lined up perfectly for the window at exactly the TDC and wanted to pop out. I made a minor modification which will make it easier to remove them down the road should it be needed. I will post the mod shortly.
Finished door still needing internal upholstery panel installed, but exterior minus mirror is done. Door top trim installed.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1367892341.jpg

speedo 05-13-2013 07:18 PM

A pillar resto...PIA
 
The factory inside vinyl trim for the A pillar /windshield was barely good enough for a pattern. This needs to be done before the replacement targa top (expensive) rubber molding is installed. And before the door gasket gets installed. For you welders and engine builders...skip this part. If you send your projects to the local upholsterer (as you should because they do a better job than I do), skip this part. This voyage for me is always time consuming and measure-cut-fit, measure-cut-fit. The vinyl sized and sewed
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1368497358.jpg
Working from the front of the windshield back
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1368497446.jpg
And stretching as we go
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1368497480.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1368497533.jpg
Then the sides
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1368497579.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1368497634.jpg
And to the left
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1368497671.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1368497786.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1368497830.jpg
Long day, but I was dreading this as I had to create the trim AND install it...it is working out ok

Speedo

speedo 05-13-2013 07:29 PM

A pillar done
 
Trying to work from the front of the car to the back. The targa rubber is a bit more expensive than the coupe rubber for obvious reasons...(Haycait feel free to weigh in here), targas have a propensity to leak. As such, the parts should be more expensive. Therefore, installing the expensive gaskets should be done carefully. I finish up the pillar trim...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1368498239.jpg
Nice homemade seams
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1368498316.jpg
The aluminum ledge installed
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1368498381.jpg
Vin reinstalled on the fresh drivers A pillar
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1368498406.jpg
Next up is the dash
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1368498495.jpg
Goes here
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1368498527.jpg
Trial fit
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1368498567.jpg

Speedo

speedo 05-13-2013 07:39 PM

Bozo painter...Miguel are you listening?
 
Totally bondo'd over my PORSCHE letters on my decklid.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1368498732.jpg
Need to carefully re-drill these
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1368498813.jpg
Money shot...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1368498866.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1368498900.jpg
Now that I have the A pillar gasket in place, I need to re-trim the vinyl for the B pillar lower latch panel area
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1368499006.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1368499034.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1368499075.jpg
Done...left side next

Speedo


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