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this is coming along!!! great to see this process
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Perfect Gemini match. Good gaps. You'll be enjoying the car long after the bad actors get their just rewards.
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Ok...I have been a bit temper-mental
Maybe a bit of a temper regarding my painter experience, and a bit mental at my ignorance (handshake contract) and how everything ended up. Car has been under a car cover in the shop. It is there, I know it is there...but I have not wanted to indulge it by paying any attention to it. I have a 914-6 on the rotisserie next to it that has yet to cause me the grief the targa has. Kind of like when your dog does something it knows it shouldn't do...you catch it in the act, and it puts it's head down and heads towards the vanquished "bad dog" place. It wants desperately to catch you looking it's direction to give you the "I'm sorry" look, but you just ignore it.
Ok, so in the past when a project has gone astray...I need to tip-toe back into it. Build up a rapport...some steam. I have been busy in the shop...but the projects have been 914-6 related, or peripheral stuff. I ended up with a lot of extra MFI stuff far and beyond what I need for my own engines...and finding homes for these parts helps the Porsche account. This weekend, I forced myself to do a couple small things to re-develop the relationship with the targa. Don't bust my chops...here goes.:D I had refinished the rear decklid grill a while back, but now I have the chance to install it , check the fitment and attach the one-off 2.2 badge I made. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1357613792.jpg New studs aligned perfectly. The original badges were riveted. I will use JB weld and the existing rivet holes. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1357613895.jpg Everything is lined up, and the area under and around the vanes is protected from JB weld ooze. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1357613969.jpg Bingo...24 hrs later all cured...looks great if I do say so myself. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1357614033.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1357614104.jpg I was on a roll, albeit a roll on a very slight slope. The rear got attention, so I headed to the front. The badge has a bit of early patina. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1357614284.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1357614339.jpg I am starting to warm to the car :) |
Don't hold it against the car, it cannot help it if it's owner went a little crazy. As for EFI parts, Richard, aka Zookeeper on S reg needs some help w an MFI pump.
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I'm just glad you're back on it, Lars! The sad part is, you do so much cool stuff that's only noticeable if people have read this thread. That must give you some satisfaction when you're rolling down the street. :)
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Ok...a bit more skin
I had suffered through the (personal/me) recover of a "347" 914 dished wheel and I am the reason that the professional resto shops do so well...it takes me a long time and a lot of blood (needles and skin) to recover a wheel. You would think I would have learned from past experience. I recently picked up a very lightweight Nardi wood wheel. Incredible how light as compared to a factory wheel wood wheel. A buddy hooked me up with the correct hub, but I couldn't find a reasonably priced Porsche horn button. Plenty of Nardi emblemed horn buttons, but I didn't want a Nardi horn button. So...I needed to find an alternative. Here is what I started with...the center hole criteria was 2 1/4 inches.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1357615648.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1357615681.jpg Ok, so I looked around the shop for something Porsche...that might work as a horn button. I looked at maybe turning down a centercap on a fuchs, but the dimensions were prohibitive. So I looked at everything I had in the shop...and stumbled on these http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1357616090.jpg These are the emblems on the moon hub caps...2.1/4 OD. This hubcap was beyond repair, so the emblem got sacrificed. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1357616193.jpg Here are the components... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1357616291.jpg This is the emblem polished up... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1357616420.jpg I need to create a spacer between the horn button and the emblem to get it flush with the surface of the Nardi...plexiglass. It will be invisible, and the horn button will still work. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1357616536.jpg The finished product... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1357616649.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1357616715.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1357616741.jpg I'm not sure...but to me that looks almost gothic. The button is free and has plenty of movement for the horn to work. I think I will ignore the trim ring around the button that conceals the bolts holding it to the hub. Flame away |
opinions ...not that we like them or care
Here are the results using the original trim ring...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1357621954.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1357621989.jpg Or and my preference...without http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1357622045.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1357622083.jpg BTW...side view shot of the plexiglass spacer. If anybody wants some dimensions...pm me. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1357622257.jpg Thanks for indulging me. Speedo |
Really like the polished emblem. I prefer it with the trim ring.
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I vote for with the trim ring - or use chrome dome headed hex bolts.
Ps. Nice work as usual. |
I vote sans ring, but agree maybe with some nicer looking bolts? Well done on the button!
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Geat work on the horn button, looks great.
No ring and I like the hex bolt look but button heads would look more finished. |
I like the trim ring :)
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With those bolts, go with the trim ring. With polished button head cap screws, then maybe go ringless...
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No ring. Though nice hardware on the final assembly.
I might need to get in touch about this. I've got a Racemark wheel that I have run without button for years. A bit tedious touching a lead to the side of it when I actually need a horn. I like this solution. And since my Racemark is black, and so are my counter sunk allen fasteners, I could just spray the cap matte black and call it done. |
So we have this great local hardware store...
McGuckins. And the old hardware dudes that work there know their stuff. I show up and they raz me about what project I am working on, and why it is taking me so long. Big difference between McGuckins and a Lowes or Home Deop where you have to find someone in a dept and tackle them...then they usually cannot answer the question so they have to call someone on their walkie talkie. They felt my pain when I said I needed to find some alternatives to the 5mm bolts on the Nardi...here are the new choices. Both are an improvement.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1357785361.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1357785383.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1357785406.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1357785429.jpg I have pulled a couple more emblems off rusty half moons and am now looking for two more hubs and basic horn buttons to complete a couple more aluminum wheels that need help. Let me know what you have. The targa is going to fly the Nardi as it sits. Speedo |
McGuckin's is a very cool store for sure. My mom goes there all the time. I have one of their baseball caps I like. If they don't have what you need try McMaster-Carr.
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Front latch panel
Was painted poorly. There was either dust or debris underneath. My painter mixed me a bit of Gemini Blue metallic in a couple rattle cans. I realize it is the front latch panel...but it could be cleaner. I stored the front hood and fenders so I could repaint the front panel. I have decided to work from the front of the car towards the rear. I have sanded down the panel and getting it prepped.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1358042801.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1358042996.jpg This took a couple hours....and I'm not pissed that I need to redo this...really. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1358043071.jpg Protected http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1358043099.jpg Primed http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1358043124.jpg I can put the color on tomorrow and then start to work my way to the back of the car. Looking forward to being able to use some of the bling... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1358043214.jpg Speedo |
Regarding the wheel fasteners, I'm not diggin the phillips...the button heads are better, but i'd prefer them ii another finish. Stainless? But no matter they are by far the best choice so far.
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I like the trim ring. Looks... art deco-ish, in a good way.
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weather has warmed up here...time to open up the garage
Last monday morning at 6:15 am in was a brutal minus 13 F, and today it was 55 F...go figure. Hard not to get motivated. I finished up the paint on the front latch panel.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1358821325.jpg And cleaned up...much better than where we started. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1358821380.jpg Haven't seen this spagetti in over a year. Usually this gets wrapped up to go to the sand blaster....and he adds another 4-5 lbs of media to it. Nasty when unwrapped. This doesn't look great at first... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1358821518.jpg Most of the wiring needed to be re-wrapped, but it wasn't too bad. All cleaned up and repositioned. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1358821586.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1358821609.jpg Feeling better about this as I go along. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1358821656.jpg Looking pretty clean http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1358821689.jpg I am looking for longhood 70-71 targa stuff...I can't find a box that I put this stuff in when I disassembled it. floorboards washer resevoir and pump chrome driver bumperette with rubber (that doesn't need rechroming) horn grills (ditto on the rechroming) If you have some of this stuff...please pm me. I have a lot of SWB-LWB parts I am willing to trade. Thanks Speedo |
Lars, I think I have a reservoir and a pump. Assuming I don't keep it for myself. :)
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Hey Speedo
Nice color, looks like the same my car is (or better was until repaint): http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1358849592.jpg |
More small steps...we need rubber dear
Just ordered a rubber package...partnered with a buddy (restoring a coupe) to get a small break. His bill was $900+ and mine was $1600+...excluding the soft window and tonneau. Targa rubber is expensive. SWT rubber is more expensive...haycait911 was right about targas :rolleyes:
So the weather warmed up here (strange to get 60 degree F weather in the mountains in January :eek: and I was able to get a couple small things done. My four wheel drive assistant. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1359343360.jpg As long as I am standing up...no worries, she stays low. However as soon as I bend or kneel down to do anything ...she strikes. A total attention sponge and my face gets really cleaned. Don't get fooled by the reading glasses. :) The brake resevoir is getting refreshed. It was filthy, hoses were shot, and support bracket and clamps were very rusty. Cleaned sandblasted, painted, new hoses and ready to go... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1359420945.jpg With the resevoir and lines installed...waiting for the gromets. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1359422031.jpg Ouch, my neck! http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1359421136.jpg I need an easy way to unpaint some of the under-dash wiring that my painter decided needed to be body color, without screwing up the surrounding area that was supposed to be painted...body color. I am finally proficient at reading early wiring diagrams, you know the ones that are color coded. Kind of hard to corelate the wires to their specific application when they are all the same Gemini Blue Metallic. Hey, he was thorough. |
Saw this posted on S Registry by Jim B and thought you might like to see it. He said it was custom made by one of his clients I believe.
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Beautful wheel. Btw, Ace stocks a bin of hardware....referred to as black chrome for acorn nuts and bolts like that. Harley riders outfit with it.
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Cleaning up the trunk and working towards the dash.
I am reluctant to hurry up and put the gas tank in till the rest of the wiring under the dash is correctly placed. And the wiring won't get connected till the gauges are installed. But the gauges won't get installed till the dash is painted. Not having the gas tank in place means I can stand in the hole as opposed to kneel on the steel tank. The dash should have been painted early on by Mr Painter. Doing it now is risky...there is a lot to tape off. Heater/blower assembly also needs some work, missing rivets on the flange that the vent screws into. I like how the previous re-paint managed to paint the inside of this thing.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361199838.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361200026.jpg The dash looks great, maybe I just leave it as is? http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361200205.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361200235.jpg Don't think so...tape it off http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361200516.jpg getting there http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361200566.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361200624.jpg Instruments go in tomorrow...need to source the basketweave as mine is in good shape, but it has shrunk. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361200713.jpg |
More...
With the dash painted and the instruments can installed with the help of the dash top not yet in place The speaker hole makes wiring a lot easier. Temptation is to put everything within reach back together quickly, which for me means inevitably...undoing something that was installed out of order. Amazing that these still exist after 42 years...time to glue them back up
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361201138.jpg Wiper resevoir got sourced, cleaned and installed...note to self, find pump :rolleyes: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361201219.jpg I don't need to stand in the smugglers box, so it gets closed up http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361201267.jpg Spagetti that is ready...oh good, all the different colored wire is now the same color. Even my masking tape that was carefully marked to identify what wire goes where...is all Gemini Blue. Sweet! As long as all the wires are the same color, it shouldn't matter where they go right? :eek: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361201315.jpg Waiting patiently. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361201388.jpg I had to shake a ton of derbis out of the blower, and then "snake" a vacuum hose inside this thing...amazing how much crap had worked its way in there. Replacement flexible hose is needed between the left and right ducting that blows into the cabin footwells and the heater/blower. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361201650.jpg I need one of these...in fact I could use both sides. The moisture has won..delamination has rendered these worthless for something other than a pattern, but I am not interested in learning how to bend plywood. If anyone has a pair from maybe a racecar project, let me know. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361201841.jpg Speedo |
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Not much more...
My tach needed a make-over...lets see how it turns out. Sanded out the peeling and awful looking trim paint and rattled it...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361238841.jpg Major improvement http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361238949.jpg The instrument cluster pre-gauges http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361239024.jpg And post gauges...note the "anxious speedo" (to be replaced by another shortly). Good news is I used up all of the Genmini Blue wires...sure is easier to wire when everything is the same color. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361239190.jpg In a seperate post...I asked for pics of the fuel evaporative system in the front trunk area. I have my handwritten schematic... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361239440.jpg But my pics of where and how the different containers are attached, went away with my dead laptop. I anybody wants to weigh in here with pics, I would appreciate it. |
Back at it...
Minutia takes time. The aluminum dash fascia trim was rough. I know there are replacement kits, but I decided to straighten and polish what I had. TRE supplied the new basketweave...thanks Dave. Everything was disassembled, polished and new basketweave vinyl installed. The aluminum trim that was mangled around the radio orifice looks new. A bit of double stick tape and contact cement.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364086411.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364086463.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364086484.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364086501.jpg Matt found me a one piece knee pad that I can recover. I still have a couple yards of vinyl ready to go... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364086609.jpg Getting the pattern set up http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364086667.jpg Cut and glued to start to stretch http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364086703.jpg Almost finished up with the trunk...needed some logistics help with the "evaporative system" which I got from an separate post...almost there http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364086856.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364086980.jpg Installed the gas tank seal and trial fitted the tank http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364087245.jpg Tomorrow I finish up the evaporative system and install the charcoal canister, and gas tank and fuel lines for good. Finish up the knee pad, and install it and the dash, and the steering clamshell. I have a couple wire questions on the steering console to figure out. I have two brown/white female spades wires with coming out of the switches (turn signal and wiper). They need to find their male counterparts...and I didn't draw the schematics when I disassembled, or I can't find them. The single brown ground wire goes to the horn button. If any body knows off the top of their head what the brown/white wires go to...school me or I have to head back to the wiring diagrams. It is very winter here...14 inches of snow in the last 24 Speedo S |
If it were just a basic resto...for me
I wouldn't care about being correct. It is SO much easier to rebuild a non-correct car. So I am trying to put this targa back together correctly (well at least mostly correctly :p ) I am almost done with the kneepad...looks like it got attacked by paperclips
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364180835.jpg New vinyl http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364261657.jpg The SWB one piece and the later two-piece mounting holes are close...still need for the hole to be massaged a bit. Needs to snug up tight to the bottom of the polished trim, but still allow the glove box door to open. Before... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364261795.jpg And after...woohoo no ashtray! http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364261840.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364261870.jpg Next up on the operating table...door tops, much easier than the knee pad. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364261922.jpg Evaporative tidbits installed, still need the last piece of clear hose that comes off the tank. I'm glad the system works well...it was a PIA. Maybe the last time I reinstall the complete system :rolleyes: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364262115.jpg Ordered the clear windshield, but the new dash has to go in first. Another day or so and I can bring down the fenders to prep for hanging. Speedo |
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Mush, mush...
Took the door panels and early SWB door pulls to a little "old School" guy in Denver on Friday. The door pulls need to be recovered, and the door panels need to be reproduced. I could have gone with Appbiz...but I don't want to go RS on the doors. A couple other names out there have complete panels, but I gave the local older guy a chance. Seems like a decent guy, good workmanship, and he certainly needed the money. The big name in Denver seems to be AutoWeave, but they were a few weeks out and four times the price. Sometimes you get what you pay for...we'll see. I finished the door top trim, and started to work on unraveling the rear harness. The console is pretty nasty.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364780736.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364780785.jpg Not sure I like the cut wires and the jury-rigged fuse holder http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364780842.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364780864.jpg I need to clear all this stuff off and repaint the console http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364780943.jpg The rear lid looked great on the outside...my painter didn't prep the inside of the lid. When he shot it, he painted over the residue (oil etc) on the inside of the lid. Just nasty. I had to be careful as I cleaned and prepped the inside of the lid and re-shot primer http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1364781181.jpg Tomorrow it gets body color and goes back on the car. This slow stuff drives me nuts. I ordered the windshield and need to get the A pillars ready for the install. Front fenders are coming...not soon enough. Speedo |
Breaking tradition...
I am supposed to be working backwards from the front of the car. I needed some accomplishment in the rear. Took this mess apart to clean it up.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365382635.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365382702.jpg Cleaned up and ready to reassemble http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365382777.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365382844.jpg And installed... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365382956.jpg Still need to ID this stray wire off the condensor http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365383143.jpg Oil tank installed http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365383420.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365383469.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365383517.jpg Tail-lights next.... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365383571.jpg |
I admire so much guys like you Speedo who are able to do so much by themselves. Great job.
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Insane dedication. Electronics cleaned up well.
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Onward...
Few more small items...Rich supplied me with some floorboards that simply needed the hardware moved over.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365470154.jpg As I am going against the grain and using SWB armrests vs the correct 70-71 armrests (don't get me going on why I dislike the robust, hardy, stout,:rolleyes: ineffectual) cardboard door pockets. I like the streamlined early handles, with the long elastic/bungee pleated pockets. I am not an upholsterer. I have completed a couple amateur steering wheel recovers, and I will recover knee pads and door tops...but I will have my door pockets made. The local "go-to" Porsche upholsterer was 4 weeks out and wanted BIG $$ to make a couple door panels for me. So, I went out on a limb and contacted an old school shop in Denver to make my panels. I gave the guy my 70 (shrunk) original door cards, an 83 door, and a pair of 67 door handles. He was thoroughly confused. I needed to get him some dimensions...basically how the early door handles attach to the early doors, and how the early door stampings compare to a later (SC) stamping. So without going into much detail, as I am probably the only one backdating interior door panels at this point...here are the two internal door skins side by side. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365471025.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365471053.jpg The holes for the armrests are in the same places... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365471110.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365471146.jpg The primary difference is the early doors have spacers that "fur out" the attach points near the bellcrank for the release pivot http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1365471246.jpg Once I explained this to the upholsterer...we are a go. Panels will incorporate a trick basketweave insert thanks to a Randy Webb suggestion. We'll get them back on Friday and I will post pics. Inch by inch... Speedo |
Installing targa trim sucks
There is a three piece (sewed together) stretch of vinyl that needs to be installed before the windshield can be refitted. It extends up the left A pillar, across the underside of the windshield crossbar and down the opposite A pillar.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366069668.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366069691.jpg Mine was worn and dry rotted...I couldn't consider reusing it in good conscience. I called around and couldn't find anyone that could sell me the item. Bummer. Worn areas http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366069855.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366069874.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366069964.jpg It comes apart http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366070005.jpg Not nice... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366070051.jpgI laid out the pieces and cut the blanks from fresh vinyl...but I am sure I will have to get some sewing machine help to stitch the top to the two sides, as I don't think it can/should be done by hand. Back end is wired with new lenses. I am starting to undislike the Gemini Blue car more as get closer to the end. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366070229.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1366070259.jpg Speedo |
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