962 Prep Work - 2nd Thread...

Wayne 962 · Wayne 962's Garage

Okay, so we finished what we were doing and got the thing buttoned up and in the trailer (it's sitting out in front of my house right now - a 55-ft long RV/Trailer combo!). Here are some photos on what we did (in no particular order):

Shown here is a BSP (British Standard Pipe Thread) fitting that was used in the 1980s by Porsche. No one I've talked to knows why, but these are no longer used, and they were pretty terrible anyways - multiple people have told me that they leaked all the time. So, we replaced the fittings and lines with AN fittings, as do many people who run these cars.

Here is a bottom turbo flange that I had made to replace the BSP fitting on the bottom of the turbo. Same mounting flange as on the production cars - same gasket, etc.

Old line at the top, new lines below:

I didn't really like the look of the oil that came out of this thing. With the oil being pretty difficult to change, I'm not sure this was changed too much. We'll run it at Willow and then change it again soon thereafter.

Here's a shot of the new flange mounted to the bottom of the turbo. New gasket of course (it's a stock 930 gasket that's used).

Here's a neat shot of the turbo + wastegate setup. The turbo has oil lines on the top and bottom, both of which we replaced, as it appears they were getting old, and may have been original to the car. These lines get hot a *lot*, so it was evident that they may have been sources of the leaks we're trying to track down. I think we got all the leaks, but time will tell.

I'm not super happy with the new fittings and the clearance between them and the bulkhead. There's some interference going on here - I think it's good enough for the weekend, but I'd like to see a better solution in the future. I think the fuel line fittings shown here can be rotated out of the way, but I need access to the inside bulkhead of the car - not terribly easy to get to.

Wayne 962 · Wayne 962's Garage

Here's another shot of one of the top lines to the turbo that we replaced:

Shot of the bottom line:

Here we are filling the car up with Mobil 1 0W-40:

Engine Compartment, the engine was running when this photo was taken:

The intercoolers are also water cooled - this line to the intercooler was leaking on the opposite side - I decided it best to replace both of them, since they were probably pretty old:

The tail stands up by itself. While I'm not an expert on tails, I've been told that this tail is somewhat unique to this car, and is slightly different than the standard short tails used on the 962s. This was quite common for Kremer to constantly work on improving the cars. When this chassis was built, Kremer did not want a factory chassis because they were considered to be an old, inferior design. Having lost Winkelhock at Mosport, and another car that year, I heard he swore never to use a factory chassis again. The Thompson chassis were considered to be much better and did indeed prove worthy in 1987.

Here we are pumping oil out of the car using the starter. We got a total of 10 quarts out using this method (the car holds about 12 quarts). We also suctioned the oil tank too, prior to pumping the oil out of the sump. This method worked a lot better than I expected. You don't really want to spill oil into the undercarriage of the car, as the exhaust is right there, and when it gets hot, the oil can smoke and catch on fire!

Another shot of the car as we're working on it:

Wayne 962 · Wayne 962's Garage

Period photo of the car in action:

-Wayne

Wayne 962 · Wayne 962's Garage

Photo of the car at the Palos Verdes Concours a few weeks ago:

-Wayne

PatrickB · PatrickB's Garage

Sweet!

PatrickB · PatrickB's Garage

Where was that PV Concours? Was it at Trump Golf Course?

Flieger · Flieger's Garage

Where was the front end hiding when I stopped by today?

I was amazed at the tiny gap between the fan and firewall. I guess it was mostly oil and water cooling, not much air needed. For the wet/cool races, they could even get away with blocking off the cooling air exhaust which cleaned up the venturi for considerably more downforce.

Wayne 962 · Wayne 962's Garage

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Originally Posted by PatrickB

Where was that PV Concours? Was it at Trump Golf Course?

Yup, Trump National Golf Course...

-Wayne

Wayne 962 · Wayne 962's Garage

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Originally Posted by Flieger

Where was the front end hiding when I stopped by today?

I was amazed at the tiny gap between the fan and firewall. I guess it was mostly oil and water cooling, not much air needed. For the wet/cool races, they could even get away with blocking off the cooling air exhaust which cleaned up the venturi for considerably more downforce.

The front was / is in my truck. There is a funnel on the top of the car that feeds air directly to the fan. You can see it in some of the photos.

-Wayne

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Wayne 962 · Wayne 962's Garage

Yes, that's the car with MOMO wheels on it, I believe, being driven by the previous owner.

-Wayne

Flieger · Flieger's Garage

I like the 5 spoke wheels you have. Are they the same size as the basketweave BBS ones you have on now so that you can choose which to run?

PatrickB · PatrickB's Garage

Will you be joining in on the fun Max?

Here is another video I could help but share from Lemans, actually in the predecessor 956.. The front straight at top speed for what seems like an eternity, then slowing down in about 200 feet to 40mph for a quick sharp right, then back on it to top speed... Does it get any better?

BryanM · 10-09-2010, 05:09 PM

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Flieger · Flieger's Garage

Sorry Patrick, can't be at Willow on Monday. I have school. I was in El Segundo on Friday for an SAE lecture on flight dynamics of Albatross at Northrop Grumman and they are just a few miles from Pelican, so I stopped in to see the master at work.

PatrickB · PatrickB's Garage

No probs Max.. You have your priorities straight!
I'm at a wonderful point in my life where I have plenty of time to completely screw around!
I have a new on board video cam, and will try to get some good clips, and stills!

Quicksilver · 10-09-2010, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PatrickB

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The front straight at top speed for what seems like an eternity, then slowing down in about 200 feet to 40mph for a quick sharp right, then back on it to top speed...
. . .

At 240 mph a car is going 352 feet per second. The deceleration shown at the end of the Mulsanne takes roughly about 8 seconds. It is a bit more then 200 feet.

I just find it impressive that all the braking happens after the hump at the end of the straight.

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So... I suggest that as part of a new customer loyalty program Wayne should start handing out rides.

A show of hands?

Wayne 962 · Wayne 962's Garage

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Originally Posted by Flieger

I like the 5 spoke wheels you have. Are they the same size as the basketweave BBS ones you have on now so that you can choose which to run?

Those are 17s - you can't really get tires for those wheels any more, so you have to run 18s like are on the car right now. I have one of the last remaining sets of 17s available, perhaps I'll put them on those MOMO wheels and run them one day. Or, I might just sell them, as I can probably sell them for the price of 2-4 times the cost of a set of 18s (I have a spare set of 18 tires too).

-Wayne

Wayne 962 · Wayne 962's Garage

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Originally Posted by Quicksilver

So... I suggest that as part of a new customer loyalty program Wayne should start handing out rides.

A show of hands?

I bought the only known left-hand seat for a 962 (came out of a street car) to put into the 962, but it's not installed yet.

-Wayne

slow&rusty · 10-10-2010, 02:09 AM

Wow..amazing and breathtaking!