juice,
That was always my plan and I had many people request pricing for the kit, but no buyers. It became clear to me that, although priced far below the price you would pay for any alternative, complete ITB arrangement( with ECU)..........what I thought was a fair market price for a complete kit, was too high for the market. The market has spoken. If you PM me your email address, I'd be glad to provide you with pricing......and then you can decide and let me know what you think..

regards,
al

Been trying to find out what injectors you used in this application.... Couldn't get my eyes on any info about it..http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...leys/blush.gif

Trying to find out some info about it all over the interweb now too as the TB's I bought. (Same as these) comes without injectors and I would like to know what to look for that would be suitable for the 2,0L engine of mine...;)

MegaSquirt - Electronic Fuel Injection Computer by Bowling and Grippo ©2010

Hebster....follow the link above to the Megasquirt site. On the left hand side of the page, you will find the link to the MegaManual. Click on the Injectors & Fuel supply section and scroll down to the injector calculator. Lots of good info here.

regards,
al

PS: I used the injectors that came with the Speed Triple ITBs. They were rated at 26 lbs/hr (270 cc/min) at 43.5 psi. I sent these to WitchHunter to have them cleaned and tested. That flow rate will support a 6 cylinder engine at approx. 250 HP .

The standard triumph injectors work very well on my 2.2 T.

Thanks!:cool:
Appearantly 200cc/min would be enough for my engine when aiming at 150-200hp?

Very interesting thread and great work!

Herbster................you got it...........19 lbs/hr (199.5 cc/min) is a common injector size.

Joeaska....thanks.

regards,
al

Here comes a bunch of new questions.... SmileWavy

What thickness are your adapterplates?

Did your respace the TB's so they are the same as the manifold intakeholes?
I guess your Weber manifolds are the same as my Zenith manifolds? If so the TB's need to be moved about 6mm from eachother to line up with the manifold holes.

Did you keep the exit (lower end) of the TB's original oval or did you reshape them to more flow with the round manifold holes? Looks oval in the first page.

I will probably come up with more questions when my project evolves.. ;)

hebster,

1. My adaptor plates are .50' thk (12.7mm).
2. My TB's are spaced to match the weber manifolds spacing. (same as Zeniths)
3. TB's are moved to line up with the manifold spacing
4. My spacers are machined oval on the top, to match the TB's port and 40mm round on the bottom to match the weber port....the transition in the spacer is very smooth and nice.
Note: I thought that the metal around the TB port was not thick enough to be able to open up to 40mm round and still provide enough strength.....I tried it.

regards,
al

Trying to figure out how you did the idle control
Did you use the Triumph original idle valve (or-what-ever-it's-called)?

If I figured it out correct the idle control is connected to each TB at the tubes on the inside in your sets?

idle
 

I did use the Triumph Idle air valve. This valve is controlled by a stepper motor. Megasquirt has the capability of controlling this stepper motor, based on engine temp input. If I remember correctly, their are a few standard choices for Idle air control. I chose the Bosch default and it worked perfectly.

regards,
al

Currently stuck in Las Vegas.....tying to get back to Seattle...the weather is not cooperating.

Al, email sent. I don't think you got my PM a while ago.

Great job:eek:

Another Porsche 911 Speed Triple EFI/ITB kit..............1st fire - YouTube

Minor update.....another kit getting installed/tuned....1st fire

regards,
al

nice Al...how does this set up differ form the other set up you created...??

Looks promising... :-)

Bob

Bob,
Very similar with the exception of the Weber manifold to Speed triple adapter, which I redesigned.......

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/pacific-northwest-us-wa-id-ut-hi-ak/677379-i-got-distracted-something-shiny.html


.......... and I've opted to use Weber linkage instead of the cable linkage. There are other subtler changes, as well, but I'm just improving it as I go.

I've also built a 3.6 with 46mm TWM T'bodies and next I'm building a hi-butterfly like system using MFI and EFI bits.............I like it.

regards,
al

will be interested in the 3.6 application soon, i think..

Al, any dyno run yet showing HP and torque curves?

Also, can u please acknowledge receipt of the customer order on the Renngrill i sent you last week? Haven't heard back from you on any of the emails, pms or voicemails i have sent! Thanks!!

Greetings,
No dyno yet. My buddy Tony (Wolverine) is back on track with his project and mentioned getting a dyno done, so we shall see. Sorry about the delay in responding. I will be away from the office until Wednesday. You have been emailed and pm'd. Keep up the good work, I appreciate it.

regards,

Al

I was Just in Big Lake visiting family, i was literally down the road. I would have loved to see this thing! Awesome job..

-Jeff

Jeff,
Next time you're in the area, you are welcome to stop by and see where all the garage fires start.

regards,
Al

Hey all, that is awesome! I have some questions if you don´t mind:

Is there a common plenum for the IAC on the Triumph ITB´s?

Are you driving the car?

Great work, AAA!!!

Best regards

Tiago

turkey day fire up
 

2 7 racer Colo 014 - YouTube

I had a little time today before the T'day festivities started and got my latest Speed Triple kit fired up. After a bit of fine tuning it's headed to Colorado to it's new home in a 911 track car.

Let us give thanks......................

regards,
Al

Nice, If you weren't 5 hours north of me I'd be stopping by and oogling.
Too bad I didn't have a 911 when I lived in Blaine 5 yrs ago....
We need to chat about your kit some time. (Or at least I need to ask some questions...) :)
http://www.d-zug.us/itbs.htm

Anytime...stop on by or PM me and I'll answer any questions that you have.

regards,
al

EFI MFI Gasser 001 - YouTube

latest project.

1st fire up!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/pacific-northwest-us-wa-id-ut-hi-ak/779992-speed-triple-efi-itb-dyno-results.html

A link to a brief update including some dyno results.

regards,

al

021414 batch 004 - YouTube

........firing up another retro-cool EFI/ITB kit. This is actually the 1st kit I made. i recently refurbed it, new PMO intake manifolds, etc and installed it on my test engine (2.7 w/SC cams) I've fired it up for the 1st time today and, while it does need to be dialed in and the ITBs need balancing....it does fire right up and sounds strong.


regards,
al

Wow Al, that is bad ass...I like the gray look!

rich....good to hear from you.................I was trying to get the stacks to match my hair.
This might make my 914 a little peppier..............

al

My partner has a 1997 Triumph Speed Triple 885cc aluminum frame. It's got a full factory carbon fiber kit, and it is pretty bad a$$. He thinks that it's the $%*t that it spits fire out of the under seat exhaust. I think there's something wrong with it, but he won't listen to me. It's too much motorcycle for the average person though.

Very cool!
regarding your engine, does it have CIS pistons with the SC cams? I've always wondered how this would feel/perform...as my car has CIS on it, but stock '77 S cams.

2.7 w/SC cams
 

Greetings,
It does have CIS pistons with SC cams (regrind) I bought this engine, in this configuration, to use as a test mule for my different efi designs...so it has only been on the engine test stand....no seat time, but I've included a link to a thread that covers this configuration.



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/547593-sc-cams-2-7s-observation.html

regards,
al

3.0 EFI/MFI/ITB w/megasquirt
 

This is my latest EFI project. This was originally an engine in one of my friends early 911s. i knew this to be a good running engine, but, he found that it had two broken head studs and decided to trade up to a 3.2. I decided to buy it and when i dragged it home, I performed a leak-down test The results were as follows:

1 = 2%
6 = 4%
2 = 16%
4 = 12%
5 = 6%
3 = 1%

Hmmmmm.......I tore into the top end, cleaned and visually inspected all parts, measured P&C's, valves, guides, ring clearance, etc. Everything was in spec (low to no wear) and, other than the broken head-studs... in really good shape. I refurbed the top end, de-carboned the pistons and valves/seats, lapped the valves/seats back in, all steel studs, new gaskets, sealed it up and installed my EFI stuff. After wiring and plumbing....it fired right up. I ran it for about 30 minutes to ensure the rings would seat, etc and ran another leak-down test.

The new leak-down test results are as follows:

1 = 1%
6 = 2%
2 = 2%
4 = 2%
5 = 2%
3 = 1%

Those are the leak-down numbers you want...like a new engine.

I spent a few hour today, tuning with Megasquirt.....working on the start & idle.

Here's a link to a video.....of today's work.

Check out the intake....Aluminum turbo spacers, machined for EFI injectors. on top of those are some aluminum spacers that I fitted with vacuum fittings..... on top of those, i'm using MFI t'bodies that I bored out to match the 3.0 large ports, and to top it all off ....some beautiful stax...............listen.....it is close to being done.

regards,
Al
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VeYQv8CvV0

Need close up pictures of the intake. Too far away to admire in the video. :)


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closer
 

Here you go........pic taken during the assembly.
regards,
al

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1409665625.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VeYQv8CvV0

nice al... any air filtration planned on...? i would hate to see a bug get sucked into one of those stacks and choke up a cylinder... maybe the tea strainers chris neilson used...?

So, what tub is it going into?http://lifehealthus.com/image/images/28.gifhttp://softwarenice.com/hh.jpg

Hi Al
I have build a similar Setup but have some isues while cranking.
IT takes several revolutions before the engine Starts. In you Videos they Start immidiately.
Can you Provide some Information about your cranking settings?
Thanks in advance.
Michael

Michelko, is the FP check valve installed and working correctly? Have you verified the fuel regulator pressure?