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al lkosmal 12-26-2011 04:39 PM

juice,
That was always my plan and I had many people request pricing for the kit, but no buyers. It became clear to me that, although priced far below the price you would pay for any alternative, complete ITB arrangement( with ECU)..........what I thought was a fair market price for a complete kit, was too high for the market. The market has spoken. If you PM me your email address, I'd be glad to provide you with pricing......and then you can decide and let me know what you think..

regards,
al

Hebster52 12-30-2011 04:56 AM

Been trying to find out what injectors you used in this application.... Couldn't get my eyes on any info about it..http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...leys/blush.gif

Trying to find out some info about it all over the interweb now too as the TB's I bought. (Same as these) comes without injectors and I would like to know what to look for that would be suitable for the 2,0L engine of mine...;)

al lkosmal 12-30-2011 07:34 AM

MegaSquirt - Electronic Fuel Injection Computer by Bowling and Grippo ©2010

Hebster....follow the link above to the Megasquirt site. On the left hand side of the page, you will find the link to the MegaManual. Click on the Injectors & Fuel supply section and scroll down to the injector calculator. Lots of good info here.

regards,
al

PS: I used the injectors that came with the Speed Triple ITBs. They were rated at 26 lbs/hr (270 cc/min) at 43.5 psi. I sent these to WitchHunter to have them cleaned and tested. That flow rate will support a 6 cylinder engine at approx. 250 HP .

impmad2000 12-30-2011 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hebster52 (Post 6462413)
I would like to know what to look for that would be suitable for the 2,0L engine of mine...;)

The standard triumph injectors work very well on my 2.2 T.

Hebster52 12-30-2011 11:45 AM

Thanks!:cool:
Appearantly 200cc/min would be enough for my engine when aiming at 150-200hp?

Joeaksa 12-30-2011 12:47 PM

Very interesting thread and great work!

al lkosmal 12-30-2011 04:03 PM

Herbster................you got it...........19 lbs/hr (199.5 cc/min) is a common injector size.

Joeaska....thanks.

regards,
al

Hebster52 01-05-2012 12:20 PM

Here comes a bunch of new questions.... SmileWavy

What thickness are your adapterplates?

Did your respace the TB's so they are the same as the manifold intakeholes?
I guess your Weber manifolds are the same as my Zenith manifolds? If so the TB's need to be moved about 6mm from eachother to line up with the manifold holes.

Did you keep the exit (lower end) of the TB's original oval or did you reshape them to more flow with the round manifold holes? Looks oval in the first page.

I will probably come up with more questions when my project evolves.. ;)

al lkosmal 01-05-2012 02:44 PM

hebster,

1. My adaptor plates are .50' thk (12.7mm).
2. My TB's are spaced to match the weber manifolds spacing. (same as Zeniths)
3. TB's are moved to line up with the manifold spacing
4. My spacers are machined oval on the top, to match the TB's port and 40mm round on the bottom to match the weber port....the transition in the spacer is very smooth and nice.
Note: I thought that the metal around the TB port was not thick enough to be able to open up to 40mm round and still provide enough strength.....I tried it.

regards,
al

Hebster52 01-18-2012 10:34 AM

Trying to figure out how you did the idle control
Did you use the Triumph original idle valve (or-what-ever-it's-called)?

If I figured it out correct the idle control is connected to each TB at the tubes on the inside in your sets?

al lkosmal 01-20-2012 03:43 AM

idle
 
I did use the Triumph Idle air valve. This valve is controlled by a stepper motor. Megasquirt has the capability of controlling this stepper motor, based on engine temp input. If I remember correctly, their are a few standard choices for Idle air control. I chose the Bosch default and it worked perfectly.

regards,
al

Currently stuck in Las Vegas.....tying to get back to Seattle...the weather is not cooperating.

juicersr 01-20-2012 06:33 AM

Al, email sent. I don't think you got my PM a while ago.

Mawa 02-10-2012 11:25 PM

Great job:eek:

al lkosmal 05-19-2012 12:40 PM

Another Porsche 911 Speed Triple EFI/ITB kit..............1st fire - YouTube

Minor update.....another kit getting installed/tuned....1st fire

regards,
al

911 tweaks 05-19-2012 03:19 PM

nice Al...how does this set up differ form the other set up you created...??

Looks promising... :-)

Bob

al lkosmal 05-19-2012 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911 tweaks (Post 6757111)
nice Al...how does this set up differ form the other set up you created...??

Looks promising... :-)

Bob


Bob,
Very similar with the exception of the Weber manifold to Speed triple adapter, which I redesigned.......

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/pacific-northwest-us-wa-id-ut-hi-ak/677379-i-got-distracted-something-shiny.html


.......... and I've opted to use Weber linkage instead of the cable linkage. There are other subtler changes, as well, but I'm just improving it as I go.

I've also built a 3.6 with 46mm TWM T'bodies and next I'm building a hi-butterfly like system using MFI and EFI bits.............I like it.

regards,
al

clutch-monkey 05-19-2012 06:06 PM

will be interested in the 3.6 application soon, i think..

juicersr 06-23-2012 03:23 AM

Al, any dyno run yet showing HP and torque curves?

Also, can u please acknowledge receipt of the customer order on the Renngrill i sent you last week? Haven't heard back from you on any of the emails, pms or voicemails i have sent! Thanks!!

al lkosmal 06-23-2012 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juicersr (Post 6818860)
Al, any dyno run yet showing HP and torque curves?

Also, can u please acknowledge receipt of the customer order on the Renngrill i sent you last week? Haven't heard back from you on any of the emails, pms or voicemails i have sent! Thanks!!

Greetings,
No dyno yet. My buddy Tony (Wolverine) is back on track with his project and mentioned getting a dyno done, so we shall see. Sorry about the delay in responding. I will be away from the office until Wednesday. You have been emailed and pm'd. Keep up the good work, I appreciate it.

regards,

Al

Hoffmanmotors 07-23-2012 05:50 PM

I was Just in Big Lake visiting family, i was literally down the road. I would have loved to see this thing! Awesome job..

-Jeff


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