1967 T - Not a barn find but another one will be saved!

[jkarolyi]

I'd say this qualifies as a barn find. A relatively rust free numbers matching '68 SWB coupe is worth the effort to bring closer to original.

The front re-conversion might not be as hard as you think. You can get a brand new nose panel for under $500 from these guys:

911/912 Chassis: Restoration Design

I also have a pair of primed ready-to-paint steel '65-68 SWB fenders and a nice steel long hood that I could sell to you for $1000/all. Not sure how I'd get them to you! Maybe collect all the parts you need in the USA (weak dollar will buy you a lot) and send them all in a crate. The rear quarter flares might be hard to source, but you might want to keep the flares anyway.

Best of luck on your new project!

[jkarolyi]

BTW, those seats look like some upholsterer took the original headrest-less seats and added headrests to them to make them look like the '74/newer seats. You might be able to restore those seats with a new upholstery kit.

[djpateman]

transmission #228027 is type 902/1 from a 1966 911 or 912
I think Grady once said there were 17 possible transmissions in 1968, they were all 7 digit serial #'s with an 8 in the third position.

paint code 6806-B is indeed Irish Green, and the B refers to a black interior (A=red, B=black,C=brown)

[Grady Clay]

Alex,

Make a board (2x4) the same length as the width of the seat back middle screw.
Take the seat back off the recliner mechanism.
Do not let the recliners move.
Use wood screws to attach the recliners to the board (this will let you easily reinstall the back).
Take the cover off the seat back.
Post some images of what you see.
Reassemble so nothing gets lost.

I can’t see in your image, there should be three screws holding the back to the recliner.



I just noticed this image:





Are there numbers written here (green circle)?
They should be large German script in crayon.


The 911T still has lots of pieces that need to be removed prior to stripping the paint.
Be sure and document everything.


Best,
Grady

[AlexJ]

Originally Posted by Grady Clay

Alex,

Need importer, selling dealer, original owner, all POs and an official CoA.
See if you can get copies of documents from MSO on.
That will give you very complete provenance, unusual for old 911 ‘almost barn find’.

What is MSO?

[AlexJ]

Found another number zooming a picture:




118 2 0298 - I think it's eight...

[djpateman]

That number on the lower dash frame should be the same as your VIN: 11820296
Beginning in 1969 that number changed to a body production number.
If you had a Karmann produced body, then there are other numbers to be found.

[Grady Clay]

Alex,

MSO = Manufacturers Statement of Origin.
This is the document from Porsche saying they built the car.
This is what you use to get a title or other ownership documents.

The MSO for your 911T may still be on file in the Lisbon DMV (Department of Motor Vehicles)


Here is the original MSO for 904-055 when Porsche sold it new to Ben Pon, Porsche importer in Holland.



There are three assignments on the reverse.
I was the 5th owner.

Best,
Grady

[AlexJ]

Thanks!

[AlexJ]

Although there isn't too much to say about this project, except that I am trying very hard to get some founds (sales at eBay are going great!) to send it to the body shop, so I could have the base of everything already done, I've been trying to get some acknowledgement about parts, processes and all other important details to this kind of project.

Observing my part's stock today, (I bought this car completely disassembled), I noticed that one of the wheels that came with the car had a different color than others.



Apparently, it looked like the previous owner has been testing a very strong sand blasting machine...!!! I just thought that this one is lost...

It was really damaged:







As it was already damaged, I decided to try and see how far could I recover it or bring it some shine...

Started to sand it with 240 paper and it only did some scratches... tried harder but that is really a hell of a job!
Then I decided to add some WD-40 and sanded a bit more. Off course I was doing a big mess but after a good cleaning... WOW! What a result!
It is really impressing how the WD 40 speeded up the process!
Did the same with 400 paper, then Scotch Brit, always with the help of WD-40 (not based in any scientific theory!), and... Here is a small detail of what can be done on a 10 minute job:







I know that is not a big task or achievement but I only wanted to share this experience with those, like me, with lack of knowledge and resources, are always in search of small processes to speed up things and keep up motivation, seeing some work done!

[KNS]

Those wheels are definitely worth saving.

[Grady Clay]

Alex,

If that is a 4½x15, it is worth a lot – even ‘as is’.
Sell it without any more refinishing.
A buyer will prefer to refinish it themselves.

Best,
Grady

[AlexJ]

Nop! They are all 15 x 6 ...
Don't beleve they came with the car... Any idea of the original ones?

Btw, did you geet my e-mails?

[AlexJ]

That was the only one damaged. The other 3 are painted in gold!

[AlexJ]

Regarding this project, I would like to ask another details to those who know this cars better: which king of instrument gauges did it originally had?
The green number ones? Or the next model?

If anyone has some pictures, please post.
Thank you

[JesseA]

Wow, nice project!

They switched gauges in -68 so your car should have green (old) ones!

Best regards

[Grady Clay]

A 1968 911T should have the black/white with orange pointers and black bezel with glass face.
These use the screw-clamp and barrel nuts on the back (until ’70 model).

A ‘68T would come standard with ‘non-S’ instruments.
These would have a fuel level gauge and low fuel warning light (no oil level) for the left instrument.
The ‘combination instrument’ would have only a temperature gauge, brake warning light (no oil pressure gauge) but a low oil pressure warning light.
The tach is standard but with 911T redline.
The speedometer and clock are standard.

The 911S instruments with oil level and pressure were optional.
With ‘S’ instruments, the oil pressure warning light was deleted.

Best,
Grady

[AlexJ]

Wow Grady... what a moment!

This place is amazing! Thanks to the man with the idea!

[AlexJ]

While waiting for some parts for the other project, been doing some work on this car.

The bonnet is fiberglass but an "heavy-weight" version because it seemed heavier that a steel one...

Took off the front wings (what a job!), because they are the impact bumper style and will not be used on the car.
Regarding this parts, I would like to have your opinion: Is there any possibility of this wings being the original ones with the light boxes cut?

[AlexJ]

After being search for any damage on the body, been cleaning some areas.

Looking good, I think...







... and a new interpretation of the front panel: