Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Porsche Forums > Porsche 911 Technical Forum


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Young enthusiast
 
Porsche 911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 220
Steve Wong chip install question

I'm trying to disconnect the wiring plug, but it's stuck in there pretty good and i don't want to force anything and possibly break something. When they say disconnect the box from wiring plug by rotating the box out so that it pivots away from the retaining tab, what part of the picture do i need to pull on to disconnect?

TIA

__________________
BULLET
1989 Porsche Carrera 3.2 coupe
Old 03-31-2011, 02:28 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Wine User
 
warner53's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Sonoma County, CA
Posts: 455
Garage
I got mine out but do not remember how exactly.

Bump
Old 03-31-2011, 03:09 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Registered
 
ischmitz's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Posts: 4,810
Garage
Send a message via Skype™ to ischmitz
There is a metal spring tab hidden behind the black rubber gromet where the thick wire loom goes into the white connector. It is secured by the two little Phillips screws visible in your image to the black connector housing of the DME.

You need to pull that metal tab away in the direction of the thick wire while gently pulling the white connector at that side away from the DME. In your picture you pull on that metal tab towards the 5 o'clock direction. The color of the metal spring tab is sort of golden.

When the connector comes loose it rotates away from the DME box. The other side of the connector has a nose that holds it into place. Don't force it. Once you pull on the tab it becomes real easy.

Ingo
__________________
1974 Targa 3.6, 2001 C4 (sold), 2019 GT3RS, 2000 ML430

I repair/rebuild Bosch CDI Boxes and Porsche Motronic DMEs
Porsche "Hammer" or Porsche PST2, PIWIS III - I can help!!
How about a NoBadDays DualChip for 964 or '95 993
Old 03-31-2011, 03:33 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Registered
 
steely's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: sectors R&N, SE Pa
Posts: 3,117
Quote:
Originally Posted by warner53 View Post
I got mine out but do not remember how exactly.

Bump
Same here - I remember finding it easier to unbolt the box from the floor as you have done - in order to get some wiggle room, but I don't recall which way.

That said, I do think that looking at the right side in the pic, you may see a small metal bracket with 2 screws acting as a keeper for the plastic connector edge. If this is the case, that is the pivot point, and the other side (left in the pic) has to swing away first. But I could be wrong.

BTW, I hate rotating edge card connectors in general, I just don't think it's good for the pins.

on edit - posted almost same time as Ingo
__________________
Dan

'87 Targa Carrera 3.2 - Fabspeed Cat Bypass, M&K Muffler, SW Chip
Venetian Blue
Old 03-31-2011, 03:35 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Nash County, NC.
Posts: 8,482
There is a metal retainer on the right side of the head in the picture. Release the retainer and move the box counter clock wise about 60 degrees and this will release all the pins. There is a key that the head fits into is a locator which becomes the pivot point.
Bruce
Old 03-31-2011, 03:36 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
83 911 Production Cab #10
 
JJ 911SC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 11,134
Garage
Bullet

You are almost there... Soon you'll experience the SW fine tuning.

Once you got it "pivoting" out of the connector, take pictures of it from the same position of your pics in post 1, and post them.

Why you may ask... Well in a few weeks/months/years someone else will be in the same situation and may do a search and your thread with a documented answer will help some other Pelican down the road.

Cheers

JJ

Steely

If ou are like me, 2 fingers typing... Yeah, your lookalike posting was probably started 5 minutes before the other guy 1 minute answer
__________________
Who Will Live... Will See

83 911 Production Cab #10, Slightly Modified: Unslanted, 3.2, PMO EFI, TECgt, CE 911 CAM Sync / Pulley / Wires, SSI, Dansk Sport 2/2, 17" Euromeister, CKO GT3 Seats, Going SOK Super Charger
Old 03-31-2011, 04:14 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
Registered
 
steely's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: sectors R&N, SE Pa
Posts: 3,117
Quote:
Originally Posted by JJ 911SC View Post

Steely

If ou are like me, 2 fingers typing... Yeah, your lookalike posting was probably started 5 minutes before the other guy 1 minute answer

JJ

You read me like a book!!
2 fingers and it ain't getting better either.
__________________
Dan

'87 Targa Carrera 3.2 - Fabspeed Cat Bypass, M&K Muffler, SW Chip
Venetian Blue
Old 03-31-2011, 05:22 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Registered User
 
kramer747's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 443
Garage
do they make these chips for 83 models?
Old 03-31-2011, 08:35 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
RETIRED
 
Joe Bob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: BOULDER Colorado
Posts: 39,412
Garage
Nope....wrong system. An 83 was CIS, K Jetronic.

84 and up were Motronic and had DME controllers.

I have an 83....but a 91 motor....

One was mechanical injection....the other is electronic.
__________________
1983/3.6, backdate to long hood
2012 ML350 3.0 Turbo Diesel

Last edited by Joe Bob; 03-31-2011 at 08:55 PM..
Old 03-31-2011, 08:41 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Registered User
 
kramer747's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 443
Garage
cool. I just had fuel injection control relay replaced in mine -it was all corroded. Car had been running in "limp home mode"? ever since I bought it! I kept thinking -man I thought 911's were supposed to be fast. LOL Wow -now it really moves like Jack the Bear
Old 03-31-2011, 08:49 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Young enthusiast
 
Porsche 911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 220
Almost done with everything.. issue now is i can't get the dang DME to fully snap back into place with the white connector! The "pivot point" is snapped back into place, but the far end won't fit back in. Might need to just squeeze harder.
__________________
BULLET
1989 Porsche Carrera 3.2 coupe
Old 03-31-2011, 09:24 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
Registered
 
k8atu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: NorCal
Posts: 238
Garage
If you really have the hook on then press a little bit harder........
Old 03-31-2011, 09:42 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
 
Member 911 Anonymous
 
DRACO A5OG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Rancho Palos Verdes
Posts: 14,329
Garage
Send a message via Skype™ to DRACO A5OG
Quote:
Originally Posted by k8atu View Post
If you really have the hook on then press a little bit harder........
+1, It probably never been opened so it just needs a bit more pressure

Enjoy your HP
__________________
'85 Carrera Targa
Factory Marble Grey/Black * Turbo Tail * 930 Steering Wheel* Sport Seats * 17" Fuchs (r) * 3.4 * 964 Cams * 915 * LSD * Factory SS * Turbo Tie Rods * Bilsteins * Euro Pre-Muff * SW Chip on 4K DME * NGK * Sienes GSK * Targa Body Brace
PCA/POC
Old 03-31-2011, 09:49 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #13 (permalink)
Young enthusiast
 
Porsche 911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 220
Ahhh.. so close but it won't snap in! just almost had like 2 aneurisms trying. About to throw in the towel for tonight. Any more tips on getting the DME back in..
__________________
BULLET
1989 Porsche Carrera 3.2 coupe
Old 03-31-2011, 11:10 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #14 (permalink)
Member 911 Anonymous
 
DRACO A5OG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Rancho Palos Verdes
Posts: 14,329
Garage
Send a message via Skype™ to DRACO A5OG
Maybe post a video out what you are trying to do?

Remove and attempt install... just an idea.

I would do that but I really hate those 10MM nuts.
__________________
'85 Carrera Targa
Factory Marble Grey/Black * Turbo Tail * 930 Steering Wheel* Sport Seats * 17" Fuchs (r) * 3.4 * 964 Cams * 915 * LSD * Factory SS * Turbo Tie Rods * Bilsteins * Euro Pre-Muff * SW Chip on 4K DME * NGK * Sienes GSK * Targa Body Brace
PCA/POC
Old 03-31-2011, 11:12 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #15 (permalink)
Young enthusiast
 
Porsche 911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 220
Don't have a pic right now but the white "retaining tab" snaps in and out pretty easily (to the right on the orginal pic), but the rest of the white wiring plug won't plug in. I'm pretty sure the retaining tab side is supposed to snap in first before the rest of the plug follows, but it's just not going in.
__________________
BULLET
1989 Porsche Carrera 3.2 coupe
Old 03-31-2011, 11:31 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #16 (permalink)
Registered
 
ischmitz's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Posts: 4,810
Garage
Send a message via Skype™ to ischmitz
You put the far end with the key (or nose) in first and then rotate the connector towards the housing. Make sure the nose is really all the way in its position then the DME connector rotates onto the DME housing fine. If you are one pin over because you didn't get the nose all the way into its slot it won't work. Hold the connector and the plug at about a 45 degree angle and then try it.

In your picture it is the LEFT side of the connector that gets introduced to the housing first.

Ingo
__________________
1974 Targa 3.6, 2001 C4 (sold), 2019 GT3RS, 2000 ML430

I repair/rebuild Bosch CDI Boxes and Porsche Motronic DMEs
Porsche "Hammer" or Porsche PST2, PIWIS III - I can help!!
How about a NoBadDays DualChip for 964 or '95 993
Old 04-01-2011, 06:32 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #17 (permalink)
Diss Member
 
Quicksilver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: SC - (Aiken in the 'other' SC)
Posts: 5,020
As a general tip: Put your location into your profile. If there is a pelican close by they can tell. (We all work for beer.)
Go to User CP up on the left side of the menu bar; Under Your profile click on Edit Your Details and look towards the bottom.

------
The DME connector should only require a firm continuous force to snap it in. I would carefully inspect the pins on the DME to make sure they are all straight. Also look to see if any junk has gotten into the socket.

When inserting the plug there is kind of a hook at the end of the plug that catches on the black plastic of the socket on the DME. It acts as a hinge to close it. You can try pressing it a little farther (or less farther) into that hinge point to see if that helps. If you are getting it almost closed that means that the pins are lining up so I would look at the metal release catch and see if it needs to be pressed to the release position to get it seated.
__________________
- "Speed kills! How fast do you want to go?" - anon.
- "If More is better then Too Much is just right!!!" - Mad Mac Durgeloh

--
Wayne - 87 Carrera coupe -> The pooch.
Old 04-01-2011, 07:26 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #18 (permalink)
Registered
 
k8atu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: NorCal
Posts: 238
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Porsche 911 View Post
Don't have a pic right now but the white "retaining tab" snaps in and out pretty easily (to the right on the orginal pic), but the rest of the white wiring plug won't plug in. I'm pretty sure the retaining tab side is supposed to snap in first before the rest of the plug follows, but it's just not going in.
If I read that right you are trying to put the right side in first (your pic). This is wrong.

You hook the hooked end in (LHS) FIRST, just the end, then pivot the DME around that point, to marry the DME to the connector, all the time moving the RH side of the connector to the metal retaining clip. It should just go straight in.

Good luck.

EDIT: Didn't see above from Quicksilver - same same :-)
__________________
My journey... '68 912, '80 911 SC Targa, '91 964 C2, '93 964 C2, '95 993 (my favorite!), '04 Alpina B3 3.3 (ex Damon Hill's personal ride), '99 996 C2 Cab, '02 996, '87 Carrera Coupe, black on black... Gorgeous. Currently: triple black 08 C4 Cab and on the lookout for an early Longhood project.....
Old 04-01-2011, 08:41 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #19 (permalink)
Young enthusiast
 
Porsche 911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 220
Quote:
Originally Posted by ischmitz View Post
You put the far end with the key (or nose) in first and then rotate the connector towards the housing. Make sure the nose is really all the way in its position then the DME connector rotates onto the DME housing fine. If you are one pin over because you didn't get the nose all the way into its slot it won't work. Hold the connector and the plug at about a 45 degree angle and then try it.

In your picture it is the LEFT side of the connector that gets introduced to the housing first.

Ingo
Bingo!


Now the DME is fully snapped in the white connector. I held off on bolting the DME back on deck beneath the driver's set, and tried starting the engine - it won't start!

I tried disconnecting the Pin 10 wires on the wiring harness to the DME unit, but no luck.. I'm pretty sure I installed the SW chip in the same direction as the stock chip (with the letters/numbers reading the same direction as stock did). Can't think of why else it's not starting..

__________________
BULLET
1989 Porsche Carrera 3.2 coupe
Old 04-01-2011, 10:02 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #20 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:06 AM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.