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SilberUrS6 12-03-2012 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 7130760)
911 A/C Fender Condensers Are NOW GOING TO BE OBSOLETE

YOU WERE WARNED! NEVER MIND STAY IN THE DARK

Learn about it someplace else ROFL

Been doing just fine in South Florida and other places

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1354598673.jpg

Really? Is it true? Are you REALLY going to stop posting on Pelican?

[gets down on knees and thanks Wayne]

KelogGes 12-03-2012 10:18 PM

This is a Porsche Technical Forum !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SilberUrS6 (Post 7130764)
[gets down on knees and thanks Wayne]
[- Eric]

Could you take your sexual perversions someplace else!

Joeaksa 12-04-2012 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mossguy (Post 7130757)
Joe, Really. Why do you bother?

I know Tom... its best we just let this thread die as Reid will never produce anything for sale or even test for that matter.

Guess I was just hoping that eventually he would do something but alas...

scottb 12-04-2012 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 7130760)

Reid -- I'm curious; what were the ambient temps when you shot that picture. Also, have you tested in blistering Florida heat while in traffic on blacktop?

While I agree that 30* is a terrific output, until you test it in real-world conditions, it's meaningless.

And speaking of real-world conditions, you're never going to convince anyone of the efficacy of your products until you make some available for testing by independent third parties. I think sending a set to Joe in Arizona would go a LONG way toward giving you credibility if he reports back that they are of good quality and, most importantly, producing results consistent with your claims. Until then, your claims are nothing more than "dust in the wind," to quote Kansas.

SilberUrS6 12-04-2012 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 7130820)
Could you take your sexual perversions someplace else!

Wow. Well, it's no wonder you're not doing a very good business. Even if your (inmaginary) prodicts were good, why would anyone send money to a person of such questionable character?

I count myself as lucky - I was interested in your products at first. But you have wisely steered me in another direction.

And from the replies, it appears as though I am not alone.

Good work, Reid.

wwest 12-04-2012 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 7130500)
This 911’s new design 30F degree A/C System @ 80F Ambient now has another of my new engineering inventions in it that works superbly ICE COLD
Besides my custom engineered PFC’s

The a/c system “gets 30F temps even with the rear deck lid wide open”, and no air going/passing through the rear deck lid PFC and tested with it open without the engine cooling fan sucking any air THROUGH THE REAR CONDENSER

(think about that!)

Therefore there is no normal rear deck lid condenser a/c heat dump into the engine compartment and therefore no a/c rise in oil temp; look at the picture of the engine gauges and notice the RPM GUAGE, OIL TEMP GUAGE, and interior AIR VENT DIGITAL GUAGE!

Now, close the engine lid, drive around on a HOT day in BRIGHT sunlight with TX RH (90%), in city stop and go traffic wherein the A/C system is most challenged. Or even better...let the car sit out in the TX sun all day fulled closed up and see if your car's cabin EVER gets to a reasonably comfortable temperature level...NOT!

The Front PFC alone from the 2 stock OEM placement areas PFC’s on this 911 for this test is the only ONE dumping HIGH condenser A/C HEAT using only one small front condenser fan on the Front PFC

I am busy and it’s going to take me a few days to write this up

Warning if people insist on filling this channel with more BS noise before I write this I won’t post anything further and you can sit in the dark forever

Really...?

I'm not sure any of us would mind that darkness....



Are you NOTHING short of an IDIOT...!!

Not a question.

Running an engine at high RPM but not under any "load" does not in any way represent anyone's everyday experience with these factory A/Cs.

And with system airflow below 33F you are not far away from evaporator freeze up even with a low Rh. The compressor should NEVER run with the evaporator core below 33F, you have the capillary thermostat mal-adusted.

With the rear lid condensor in that position you will have TONS of convection airflow to "wick" away the heat. Plus, in that position little or no radiant heat from the engine, an engine under VERY LIGHT load and therefore not much heat generated.

KelogGes 12-11-2012 05:27 AM

RSA Carrera ICE COLD A/C 30 Degrees PHASE I I
 
RSA Carrera ICE COLD A/C 30 Degrees PHASE I I TOP SECRET PROJECT
NEW A/C INVENTIONS

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1355235618.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1355235694.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1355235767.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1355235796.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1355235862.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1355235881.jpg

GH85Carrera 12-11-2012 06:14 AM

So I need to replace my entire front bumper to use your product?

No thanks.

scottb 12-11-2012 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 7142963)
So I need to replace my entire front bumper to use your product?

No thanks.

My thoughts exactly!

KelogGes 12-11-2012 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 7142963)
So I need to replace my entire front bumper to use your product?

No thanks.

NOPE !!! There are now several different systems each custom designed for the different early 911 Porsche model's; i.e. look at my post of the prior 87 Carrera; you commented about an RSA which apparently you don’t have GRIN.

Regardless no parts for these particular “New TOP SECRET State of the Art 911 A/C Systems OR Inventions,” will be sold separately to ANYONE!

I am giving an exclusive to STOKES AUTOMOTIVE to do custom 911 A/C SYSTEMS installations FOR THESE NEW INVENTIONS only in Fort Lauderdale.


However I will make My Other AND ALSO DIFFERENT State of the Art High Tech Models of 911 PFC's and less expensive, available separately from these new A/C SYSTEMS inventions now and @ Pelican etc when I have time

KelogGes 12-11-2012 10:17 AM

911 A/C SECRET PROJECT Completed & Highway Test Drive Numbers
 
THE NUMBERS

NOTE: THERE WAS NO A/C SYSTEM FREEZE UPS DURING THIS TEST WHAT-SO-EVER !!!

AFTERNOON HIGHWAY SPEED 70 MPH 13.5 MILE RUN EACH WAY IN TRAFFIC

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1355246346.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1355246162.jpg

LOOK AT THE DASH INSTRUMENT OIL TEMP GUAGE

(THINK ABOUT THIS!!!) ABSOLUTELY NO ENGINE OIL TEMP RISE WHAT-SO-EVER CAUSED BY A/C SYSTEM WITH THE A/C SYSTEM ON OR OFF

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1355246926.jpg

ENGINE OIL DIGITAL TEMP TAKEN WHEN DRIVING AND MOMENTARY PULLED OFF AT ROADSIDE

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1355246962.jpg

33 Degrees Ambient Temp
78 % Humidity & No Freezeup
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1355247991.jpg

LESS THAN ONE POUND OF R134A REFRIDGERENT USED IE ONLY .90LBS WEIGHT INJECTED (LESS THAN 1/2 NORMALLY USED ON A 911)

LOOK AT THE A/C MANIFOLD GUAGES LOW AND HIGH SIDE READINGS TAKEN IN THE SHOP RIGHT BEFORE THE HIGHWAY TEST the engine RPM was 2200

I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY NO ONE HAS EVER SEEN A/C PRESSURES THIS LOW ON AN EARLY MODEL 911 A/C SYSTEM HAVING CONDENSERS ONLY IN 0EM PLACES ROFLMAO

mossguy 12-11-2012 10:28 AM

Please don't yell.

KelogGes 12-11-2012 10:29 AM

I forgot to say i expect similar a/c temps as stated in this test at 95 f ambient & above from my new secret a/c system

dgmark 12-11-2012 11:15 AM

That is by far one of the hokiest setups I have ever seen. And I have seen a lot. Is this your sales pitch (What the big ac parts companys dont want you to know)

wwest 12-11-2012 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 7143406)
THE NUMBERS

NOTE: THERE WAS NO A/C SYSTEM FREEZE UPS DURING THIS TEST WHAT-SO-EVER !!!

And you would know that, HOW? Absent a total freeze up, or almost so, without "seeing" you would never know.

AFTERNOON HIGHWAY SPEED 70 MPH 13.5 MILE RUN EACH WAY IN TRAFFIC

So what..? Everyone, save you, seems to know, recongnize, that the primary shortcoming of the factory A/C involves low speed stop and go driving.

LOOK AT THE DASH INSTRUMENT OIL TEMP GUAGE

(THINK ABOUT THIS!!!) ABSOLUTELY NO ENGINE OIL TEMP RISE WHAT-SO-EVER CAUSED BY A/C SYSTEM WITH THE A/C SYSTEM ON OR OFF

ENGINE OIL DIGITAL TEMP TAKEN WHEN DRIVING AND MOMENTARY PULLED OFF AT ROADSIDE

33 Degrees Ambient Temp

Absent knowing the system air inlet temperature (and blower speed) the outlet information is useless.

78 % Humidity & No Freezeup

Wait, WAIT for IT...!

LESS THAN ONE POUND OF R134A REFRIDGERENT USED IE ONLY .90LBS WEIGHT INJECTED (LESS THAN 1/2 NORMALLY USED ON A 911)

LOOK AT THE A/C MANIFOLD GUAGES LOW AND HIGH SIDE READINGS TAKEN IN THE SHOP RIGHT BEFORE THE HIGHWAY TEST the engine RPM was 2200

I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY NO ONE HAS EVER SEEN A/C PRESSURES THIS LOW ON AN EARLY MODEL 911 A/C SYSTEM HAVING CONDENSERS ONLY IN 0EM PLACES ROFLMAO

This low...? insofar as I am aware only "to low" matters for most of us. High side not going excessively high matters....

SilberUrS6 12-11-2012 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 7143119)
Regardless no parts for these particular “New TOP SECRET State of the Art 911 A/C Systems OR Inventions,” will be sold separately to ANYONE!

Reid, that is GREAT NEWS!

Now you can stop trying to market your snake oil on Pelican Parts, right? No more pictures of hacked-together testing apparatus and tales of testing with half the data missing?

You can skip straight to the selling through Stokes Automotive (who seem to be smart enough not to tout their association with you), and pass by all this tiresome reposting you do here...

Ronnie's.930 12-11-2012 05:05 PM

This thread definitely delivers the laughs - "new TOP SECRET a/c" - WOW!

KelogGes 12-11-2012 06:42 PM

you will be able to read about it in Porsche publications news releases before summer

enough said!

tirwin 12-11-2012 06:49 PM

Wait. Are these top secret or DOUBLE top secret?

You know I just had to ask because I love that movie...

SilberUrS6 12-11-2012 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KelogGes (Post 7144486)
you will be able to read about it in Porsche publications news releases before summer

enough said!

Really? No more posts on Pelican?

Sweet.


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