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how bad did I get myself into this thing?
Just purchased an 83 sc with widebody and some mods. Took the car over to a good shop for a thorough detailed inspection and here is what they found: 1. Rt rear wheel bearing destroyed needs replacment. Crushed oil cooler line due to improper jacking. Leaks round engine case. Leaking chain housing. Valve covers need to be resealed. Noisy valves : may need valve adjustment. Passenger tie rod split open. All shocks need replacement. Exhaust leak at headers. 3rd gear syncro shift bushing needs replacement. Seal at trans leak needs replacement. Alignment. That is all of the issues. How screwed am I? Im thinking at least 5k in work just to get this thing in good shape...when I drove the car and my mechanic we believed it rode fine until we took a look under this thing.. what do you guys think?
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Yikes ...
I think it would have been wiser to take the car to a good shop before you bought it and have a thorough inspection done,even if it would have cost a couple hundred or so ... At least you would have had some negociating power towards the seller regarding all the issues that need to be adressed ! How much did you pay for the car ??? Cheers ! Phil
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07-15-2011, 02:43 PM
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the majority of that list is easy DIY stuff and not THAT much money...The money job would be the Tranny rebuild
Your 5k number may be right mostly due to Trans
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07-15-2011, 02:44 PM
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Agreed. Pick up a copy of Waynes 101 projects book and you can takle everything other than the syncro issues for much less...
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$5k is a good guesstimate.
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07-15-2011, 02:52 PM
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I'd actually chalk that up as a win, for buying without a PPI. I pretty much expect these things to leak, and to spend some time here and there chasing said leaks. To echo everyone else, you could do everything yourself in a clear weekend, save for the synchro, maybe the trans seal (depending on which one it is - might be best to do whenever the trans comes out for something else) and the alignment. Not too bad IMO for buying in the blind.
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also, just hope that when they remove the valve covers, that you don't see that any head studs are broken.
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07-15-2011, 03:25 PM
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I agree that you can do most of the repairs yourself IF your handy with tools.
Even the alignment is doable. I'd start with the valve adjustment and hope for no broken studs.
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07-15-2011, 04:10 PM
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Yea im hoping for the same with the motor work..I can be handy at times. Im going to save for the motor work. Told the mechanic to not open it up until the other issues are fixed. Picked the car up for 10k...other than this the car is clean. Think I paid fair price with all the extras on it. The widebody. Msd ignition borla exhaust rims..
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07-15-2011, 04:21 PM
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Oh and I got 3 work manuals too and reading them through. Haynes manual. 101 projects for 911 and the factory book on the car so im getting ready to get dirty
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07-15-2011, 04:24 PM
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You may be able to seal the engine leaks yourself by snugging the nuts on the chain covers, etc.
What color are your shocks? Are they green? Bilsteins can go a long long time without requiring replacement. Split tie rod seal does not mean it's bad.(medium term project vs now) Oil cooler line may not need replacement. There are some tricks in here to bring them closer to round. Bearing needs replaced and trans may be able to go a long time without being opened. You do not need to open your engine up. A valve adjustment is routine maintenance. I mean, $500 worth of routine maint but you are not opening the engine. |
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Nice looking car. They leak. Improve her bit by bit and bond with her. Don't resign yourself to believing you have major trans work imminent until you do the 915 shifting improvements documented in Wayne's book and in this forum.
Also per a previous post - is it just me or does anyone else think that telling a new owner that they "should have got a ppi" kind of cruel and useless at this point?
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If you are a DIY kinda guy. You can pick up a good used 915......then rebuild this one and have a winter project. Document the build with pics and receipts. You should get top dollar for it.
The rest of the stuff is pretty routine.
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07-15-2011, 05:35 PM
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Yeah....only one that offered to "Eat my Shorts" was Normy.....
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I picked up an 81 about 2 months ago - also without PPI. I am using the approach that jnewman suggested... "Improve her bit by bit and bond with her." I think my car had been sitting for some time and had been driven very little over the past several years.
In the first 500 miles it used a quart of oil and I thought "Oh no... more problems than I had hoped!", but after adding a quart it has used almost nothing in the past 850 miles as I have been driving it fiarly robustly... love that acceleration and sound. I can think of several ways that this may occur, like rings needing to 're seat' or valve seals needing to get some heat and exercise, but I am wondering what the experts here think can cause this behavior??? I am still finding things that I question and wonder what I will find once I get a bit deeping into her? (no porn intended ;-D ). |
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07-15-2011, 05:44 PM
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You got a fine looking car for 10K,it's definitely worthy of a few repairs and like the rest of the boys said,most of it can be done yourself !
Cheers ! Phil
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