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wildcat077 10-06-2011 02:39 PM

OK to use a TORX 55 socket to remove flywheel ?
 
Hey guys,

I would like to know if it's allright to use a TORX 55 socket to remove the flywheel bolts.The Torx is a six point socket and it seems the bolts are 12 point and require a special socket ...

Cheers !
Phil

RWebb 10-06-2011 02:43 PM

No!

Use the correct triple square

JohnJL 10-06-2011 02:44 PM

If you strip it out it is a pain...you can get triple-square bits from sears.ca or Babco.

wildcat077 10-06-2011 02:54 PM

Thanks guys,
That's what i was thinking,just called my local auto parts supplier to order one ...
Is it OK to use an impact gun to remove the flywheel bolts ? It worked well for the pressure plate fasteners !

Cheers !
Phil

RWebb 10-06-2011 03:09 PM

sure

masraum 10-06-2011 04:40 PM

Hmm, I've seen the correct tools for sale at several regular old auto parts stores.

Porsche wasn't the only manuf to use them.

Maybe it's different up there, eh? ;)

Tippy 10-06-2011 04:45 PM

I've used a Torx to remove and replace my flywheel bolts a couple of times. No problems, just keep square to bolt head and lots of pressure holding it against the bolt.

wildcat077 10-06-2011 05:04 PM

Steve,

Not to worry,i found a set that i will be picking up after work tomorrow!
Imagine that !

One cannot have too many tools :)

I'm in the middle of an engine drop due to an exploding clutch and i caught the "while i'm there " syndrome ... lol

Cheers !
Phil

Cheers !
Phil

masraum 10-06-2011 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tippy (Post 6296399)
I've used a Torx to remove and replace my flywheel bolts a couple of times. No problems, just keep square to bolt head and lots of pressure holding it against the bolt.

You can usually pick up a set of 4 at places like O'Reilly, Autozone, etc...

You could always order them from Pelican Parts for $14.75
http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/shopcart/TOOL/POR_TOOL_CAT332_pg12.htm

Lisle 60750

http://www.northernautotools.com/med...nt-bit-set.jpg

Tippy 10-06-2011 05:17 PM

Good to know.

Bob Kontak 10-06-2011 05:28 PM

Napa is pretty common in Montreal. They have them.

J F MECANIQUE INC
2251 SAINTE-CATHERINE ST E, MONTREAL
514-521-4949

My favorite parts store in Montreal was always Chez Paree.

Bob Kontak 10-06-2011 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 6296391)
Porsche wasn't the only manuf to use them.

I know New Beetles and Passats use them on drive axles. Probably Audi, too.

al lkosmal 10-06-2011 06:40 PM

Heat is your friend when removing these bolts. I use a propane torch to heat up the bolt (it doesn't take much) and they typically come right out. (using a triple square bit). W/O heat they are much harder to remove.

regards,
al

wildcat077 10-06-2011 06:41 PM

Can anybody confirm if i need an 11mm triple square bit for the flywheel ???
That seems to be the equivalent of a Torx 55 ...

Cheers !
Phil

efhughes3 10-06-2011 07:21 PM

I wouldn't touch these with an impact. Too easy to strip. With the flywheel locked down and a good-sized 1/2" ratchet or breaker, I've never had an issue to remove these. As mentioned, heat may be of assistance on those that need it.

Bob Kontak 10-06-2011 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildcat077 (Post 6296684)
Can anybody confirm if i need an 11mm triple square bit for the flywheel ???

No - See Masraum's link - they do not come in odd # metric sizes. (well, I don't think they do) Probably 12 but I cannot say for sure. I will check the Porsche parts catalog and report back.

Edit - nothing in the parts catalog that defines the bolt socket size with granularity. Also, the parts link provides nothing and the 901/915 clutch replacement provide nothing (tech info center)

http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/smart/more_info.cgi?pn=930-102-206-00-M58&catalog_description=Flywheel%20Bolt%20%28sold% 20per%20each%2C%20%39%20req%2E%29%2C%20%39%31%31%2 F%39%31%31%20Turbo%20%28%31%39%37%38%2D%38%39%29%2 0

http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/911_clutch_replace/911_clutch_replace1.htm (references "special tool") I remember it being 12mm.

RWebb 10-06-2011 07:42 PM

take a steel hammer & smack the bolt head flat on - i.e. normal to the axis of the bolt

masraum 10-06-2011 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 6296505)
I know New Beetles and Passats use them on drive axles. Probably Audi, too.

I had a couple of fwd dodge/plymouth products that were vintage '78-82 that used VW 1.7L motors and transaxles. They used them for the head bolts. I believe I was also told that Ford Pintos used them for something too.

Bob Kontak 10-06-2011 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 6296844)
I had a couple of fwd dodge/plymouth products that were vintage '78-82 that used VW 1.7L motors and transaxles.

Not the sexy Horizon? Owned one. The intoxicating 1979 edition. What a babe magnet. Sadly, I had no soft Corinthian Leather. In fact, no air conditioning and vinyl seats (in Houston) and the friggin inner fender strut mounting shell rusted at the spot welds and pulled away from the inner fender requiring me to use 30" of all thread to pull the suspension back together and then the front engine mount rusted out and the engine dropped four inches. But I digress.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317962859.jpg

al lkosmal 10-06-2011 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 6296891)
Not the sexy Horizon? Owned one. The intoxicating 1979 edition. What a babe magnet. Sadly, I had no soft Corinthian Leather. In fact, no air conditioning and vinyl seats (in Houston) and the friggin inner fender strut mounting shell rusted at the spot welds and pulled away from the inner fender requiring me to use 30" of all thread to pull the suspension back together and then the front engine mount rusted out and the engine dropped four inches. But I digress.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1317962859.jpg


when you say it like that...it sounds bad.


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