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I have a '71 S that was converted to steel shorthood, RS flares with IROC stuff and ducktail. A fenderbender resulted in an all fiberglass street legal autocross car.... many, many years later. It is still a work in progress but it was really only a couple years ago that it was sorted to a reasonable degree. So that would be about 16 years. Yeah, no budget.
And Point Mugu is no longer an autocross venue, so it is a canyon carver for the weekends I am home from school. The early cars are special. Whether you should go with an 'updated' car or not versus an SC would depend on the motor in the car and how much the car retains the light weight, nimble feel of the early car. My car is still relatively narrow and has a 2.7 RS spec motor which was there before. Being a '71 means no smog. ![]()
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I definitely like the idea of that alone, that if I do just continue on the performance route for it, that being a 70, it's a light car to start with and I can with it as I please with no smog issues. Obviously a 3.2 in that car would be handful without at least some basic supporting running gear.
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My motor (should) has (have) 210 hp @ 6300 rpm and 188 ft-lbs of torque @ 5500 rpm. The S cams make it mild until about 4000 rpm. My type 911 gearbox (same as in the '70) handles it fine. Not sure on the numbers for a 3.2.
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So, is that a bored out 2.4 motor?
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It is a 7R case, pistons and cylinders are the MAHLE RS ones, 90mm, with a 70.4mm stroke crank. So, yes, the real RS was basically just a bored out 2.4. The 7R case has more reinforcement, though. I think the spacecam in the MFI pump was unique to the RS compared to the S. Not sure though.
I do not think that my engine has anything more than the 8.5:1 compression. The motor was built long ago and we don't know much about it besides the receipts.
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Someday I might backdate it, though. Maybe go RSR. At least the rear bumper needs to be trimmed.
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A stock 3.2 would be fine on the 901 gear box. Just have to be careful you don't drag race it as 1st gear can be delicate. The conversion is fairly straight forward and is common. The running gear should be thoroughly inspected, but should be fine until you start getting into more performance/track driving. You will want to upgrade it then.
you could really tear into your stock engine and get it whooped up, but I believe that is the more pricey route than buying a decent used 3.2 + extras. You could put a 3.6 in it ![]()
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So I ended up purchasing the car and bring it home Saturday...going to drive it for a while and do some research on motor swap options.
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Coingartulations! I'm sure it will be a lot of fun getting it up to snuff!
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Thanks...like I mentioned before, this is my first P-car, so hopefully, it goes well haha. I enjoy wrenching on cars and this one looks like fun. It sure is a blast to drive and I can't wait to take it out for a little more than a test drive. I think my buddy will point me in the right direction. I ordered the motor building book off of this site to read up on the basics. I think for what I got it for, it's a pretty solid little car, even though it may not be all original. I will see where it takes me and just enjoy the ride.
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Pics!
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Cool. Now you just need some IROC bumpers (loosing the heavy impact ones) and some real seats.
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The bumpers are actually fiberglass replicas. The hood is the only steel body panel. I'm looking into something that is a little more sleek though and I would like to find some seats. Not sure if I want something factory style or Recaros or the like.
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Nice. Could be camera/angle, but looks like zero/positive camber in the rear? Might be a good idea to corner balance/align, or at least check . . .
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Thanks, one of the first projects is going to be go through the suspension bushings and clean up everything/replace what's needed, then have it aligned. Doing some research on stuff I want to run.
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Great -- keep us posted!
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Nice looking car, Bring it back to long hood. Try RSR and origional color. Jeolous of the widebody.
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Yes, personally, I like the flares, so I may just convert back to a long hood and keep the flares. The car was originally metallic blue, which can be seen in some very strategic areas if you look, but otherwise the paint is pretty good. I'm not a huge fan of the color. I think my favorite I have seen is Dolphin Gray. The rear flares seem to have been done very well.
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Metallic blue is great. Much better than the commonplace red.
If you make it a longhood you will need new fenders, which means new flares if those are Turbo fenders, or it means cutting and pasting the flares.
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