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village idiot 02-22-2012 08:14 PM

Using wide band to tune cis?
 
Did a search but nothing conclusive. I just purchased this out of curiosities sake to see what my afr is at full throttle.
PLX Devices Inc - USA
http://www.plxdevices.com/images/plx...d_page_WIP.png
Gonna try to install it next weekend and see what we see:cool:

jrolstin 02-22-2012 11:35 PM

Cool, I was always interested in getting the innovate LM-2 wideband with logger... But didn't know how you would trace it vs. RPM. I wonder if you can log multiple channels with it? Oh well I will look into it more when I have the money...

WPOZZZ 02-22-2012 11:45 PM

Tom - I have a LC-1 with turbo timer in case you want to try one of those. All I know is I keep blowing out o2 sensors. lol

village idiot 02-22-2012 11:46 PM

I wanted to try it as I have a friend with a turbocharged, VW powered Manx buggy. He's running a blow-through carb set up and he swears by the PLX wide band to aid in tuning.

theFONZ 02-22-2012 11:47 PM

I have been thinking of getting an Innovate kit also. Please let us know how this one works out.

I'm not sure if you would need a logger with CIS if you have a display. It seems like you could only tune for full throttle, or maybe for fuel economy, since there is only one adjustment and it affects the entire range. I could be wrong though, I'm still learning about CIS.

WPOZZZ 02-22-2012 11:48 PM

At WOT, my AFRs would be in the 9s.

village idiot 02-23-2012 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by WPOZZZ (Post 6576689)
At WOT, my AFRs would be in the 9s.

Yeah, but you're turbocharged. And besides, flames on decel are cool!!!:D

gavinc69 02-23-2012 10:01 AM

I got this a short while ago MTX-L Wideband O2 Digital Air/fuel Ratio Gauge, very easy install, works a treat.
Just had the car dyno'ed and the AFR results from my Innovate and the dyno machine where almost identical (they had there dyno re-calibrated only a few months ago so its spot on) so it does a good job too.

Josh D 02-23-2012 11:13 AM

I'd be curious to see how this works out for tuning CIS as well. For $200, not much to lose!

Ronnie's.930 02-23-2012 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by theFONZ (Post 6576688)
I have been thinking of getting an Innovate kit also. Please let us know how this one works out.

I'm not sure if you would need a logger with CIS if you have a display. It seems like you could only tune for full throttle, or maybe for fuel economy, since there is only one adjustment and it affects the entire range. I could be wrong though, I'm still learning about CIS.

There is only one adjustment in stock trim but you can have your WUR built to be adjustable and then have a much wider range of adjustability.

village idiot 02-23-2012 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie's.930 (Post 6577671)
There is only one adjustment in stock trim but you can have your WUR built to be adjustable and then have a much wider range of adjustability.

I think that'll be the next purchase. Or on of those digital wur(s)........

snbush67 02-23-2012 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by WPOZZZ (Post 6576689)
At WOT, my AFRs would be in the 9s.

You would know for sure if you didn't drive like a 90 year old Asian lady.

WPOZZZ 02-23-2012 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by snbush67 (Post 6578589)
You would know for sure if you didn't drive like a 90 year old Asian lady.

:mad:

It is in the mid nines. Cruising is 14.7 and when I step on it, it drops rapidly. Unfortunately, the o2 sensor is gone so I haven't tested WOT with the fuel enrichment dropped down a notch.

snbush67 02-28-2012 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snbush67 (Post 6578589)
You would know for sure if you didn't drive like a 90 year old Asian lady.

You aren't even going to attempt to deny this?

2porscheguy 02-28-2012 06:12 PM

Ronnie's930, I'm curious, how does one get a WUR to be adjustable.....is there much involved in doing this? Villiageidiot sorry for hijacking your thread!

Cheers!

Alex

village idiot 02-28-2012 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2porscheguy (Post 6589868)
Ronnie's930, I'm curious, how does one get a WUR to be adjustable.....is there much involved in doing this? Villiageidiot sorry for hijacking your thread!

Cheers!

Alex

No problem! the more people that post in this thread the betterSmileWavy More info is always good:D

WPOZZZ 02-28-2012 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snbush67 (Post 6589827)
You aren't even going to attempt to deny this?

You're just mad because I passed you on that drive with my windows up and the ac on! :D

village idiot 02-28-2012 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by WPOZZZ (Post 6590052)
You're just mad because I passed you on that drive with my windows up and the ac on! :D

And here we go.......:D

WPOZZZ 02-29-2012 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by village idiot (Post 6590267)
And here we go.......:D

Does this look familiar?

1974 Porsche 914 race car - $1500 (Kailua)
1974 Porsche 914 race car

Ronnie's.930 02-29-2012 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2porscheguy (Post 6589868)
Ronnie's930, I'm curious, how does one get a WUR to be adjustable.....is there much involved in doing this? Villiageidiot sorry for hijacking your thread!

Cheers!

Alex

There were severaly threads on this when I did a quick search - here is one:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/272502-modified-my-wur.html

I am a DIY person, but for this I just sent mine to the WUR guru, Brian Leask.

Another guy, well know on this board, Brian Bodart - RarlyL8 Motorsports, even stocks already modded WURs that you can buy . . .


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