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JPM 03-17-2015 09:13 AM

This is my 1st post and I'm not good at emoticons but have spent the last 3 days riveted to reading your excellent account and documentation on restoring the Rat as well as the very enlightening one from Fishcop. We have very close cars, mine is Tangerine and was #1925 off the line. I love your color choice by the way. I have 186K miles(3rd owner) and need to pay attention to the inevitable rust issues. Engine is sound. I just had a new heat exhaust installed. A few mild issues with the tranny and lots of oil leaks.

Your saga has inspired me to try and do some of the work myself, depending on how bad the discovery goes. At least I can learn from taking it apart.

I'm sorry to say I have had to replace fuel pumps 6 times (4 Hardi, plus a 914 and a rotary type). I now have a Holley, installed under the car in front of the torque tube, since 2002. Maybe a gravity issue with the fuel tank outlet location. Wish you better luck.

RD911T 03-18-2015 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Daves911L (Post 6970762)
Kristoph,
For your strip caulk, go down to the nearest place that sells metal roofing materials. You can buy rolls of this designed to be placed under the overlapping roofing joints. It will be a flat ribbon about 12mm wide, and 3mm thick. If you need thicker, just apply extra layers. This material is not as soft as the 3M automotive strip caulk, and is very close to what Porsche used. It will flow under pressure, but tends to retain its shape and is very sticky. The 3M strip caulk is too soft and does not seal all that well.

As always, your work on the rat looks great.
DG

Great thread! Just wow, what a job! Your energy on this project seems endless! I'm an engineer too. UMR! I'm about a 1/3 of the way through your thread and saw this. I put those chrome strips on my car without any strip caulk underneath. I'm not roadworthy yet, so I may have to pull the windows and correct this.

RD911T 03-18-2015 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyGlenn (Post 6975151)
Did some further investigating... instead of the 3M strip caulk, Pelican has the original stuff here. I'll be returning my 3M caulk and purchasing this.

Edit - found it on a later page part number: 000-043-129-00-OEM Ribbon

kkinzli 04-01-2015 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Buechsen Gustl (Post 8530022)
Awesome Thread, just found it again and read most of it a second time ;-)

This build is truly amazing and I hope that the rat is living forever now!

Thanks for the kind words. Glad you enjoyed the story........again ;-) I will certainly try to keep the Rat alive as long as possible.

kkinzli 04-01-2015 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JPM (Post 8534380)
This is my 1st post and I'm not good at emoticons but have spent the last 3 days riveted to reading your excellent account and documentation on restoring the Rat as well as the very enlightening one from Fishcop. We have very close cars, mine is Tangerine and was #1925 off the line. I love your color choice by the way. I have 186K miles(3rd owner) and need to pay attention to the inevitable rust issues. Engine is sound. I just had a new heat exhaust installed. A few mild issues with the tranny and lots of oil leaks.

Your saga has inspired me to try and do some of the work myself, depending on how bad the discovery goes. At least I can learn from taking it apart.

I'm sorry to say I have had to replace fuel pumps 6 times (4 Hardi, plus a 914 and a rotary type). I now have a Holley, installed under the car in front of the torque tube, since 2002. Maybe a gravity issue with the fuel tank outlet location. Wish you better luck.


The thread from Fishcop is amazing and was a huge reference during my restoration. We do indeed have close cars as the Rat is #1826. Would love to see some pictures of yours! I am glad to hear that the thread has inspired you to tackle some of this stuff yourself. It is quite empowering to be able to do things yourself. The oil leaks are actually quite easy to tackle and 101 projects is a great help. If you have any questions about the oil leak issues I addressed feel free to PM me.

Cheers

kkinzli 04-01-2015 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by RD911T (Post 8536559)
Edit - found it on a later page part number: 000-043-129-00-OEM Ribbon

So glad to see that the thread is serving its main purpose as a guide and reference for other restorations! Good luck with your windows. Getting the new seals on the rear windows was a major PITA for me.....twice. That was because I put the wrong seal on both sides of the car :rolleyes:

kkinzli 04-01-2015 04:59 AM

I am going to pick up my refinished wheels this weekend!!

wachuko 04-01-2015 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kkinzli (Post 8556721)
So glad to see that the thread is serving its main purpose as a guide and reference for other restorations! Good luck with your windows. Getting the new seals on the rear windows was a major PITA for me.....twice. That was because I put the wrong seal on both sides of the car :rolleyes:

I have it bookmarked since a long time ago... and the links to the video of the Targa restoration has been of great assistance. I am working on a 1967 912... not a 911 but the body is all the same. So looking at what you have done has been extremely helpful.

Thank you again for documenting this in such detailed way.

kkinzli 04-03-2015 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by wachuko (Post 8557531)
I have it bookmarked since a long time ago... and the links to the video of the Targa restoration has been of great assistance. I am working on a 1967 912... not a 911 but the body is all the same. So looking at what you have done has been extremely helpful.

Thank you again for documenting this in such detailed way.

You are most welcome. Glad to hear that the thread is helping you in your restoration! :)

daleflesburg 04-03-2015 12:03 PM

Just a beautiful job and beautiful work you have done. Congratulations.

My project car was a base 1974 coupe (no sunroof, no air, nothing fancy) It took me several years.

CoolAirVw 04-03-2015 11:26 PM

Whew!! After you contacted me about the EV conversion I decided to "binge surf" through this thread. Even though I just browsed through quickly its 1:27 here. I see the pic of the EV weekender.

kkinzli 10-20-2015 11:50 AM

Hi all,

It has been since April since my last post so I figured it was high time. I finally have the refinished Fuchs on the car! I will be posting pictures in the next few days. Had a recent adventure with the Rat where my wife had to tow me home in the Eurovan.:( Turns out the Facet fuel pump I had installed in March had gone bad. Pegasus Racing replaced the pump under warranty with no questions asked. They are a pleasure to deal with and I highly recommend them.

On a small side note check out the video below. It makes me wish I had left the Rat as I found it and was bombing around "jeep" roads in it out west on fishing trips.


This Porsche 356 Is Driven Against The Grain

Autoban 10-20-2015 01:27 PM

What a great different perspective on driving a Porsche. It also shows how versatile these cars are. Try to do that with a (stock) Ferrari or Lamborghini.

Juergen

matthewb0051 10-21-2015 05:31 PM

Great thread and build. I noticed your photos on LeMans and channeling McQueen. You really need to get one of these repro parking stickers from LeMans, the McQueen car had one in the opening sequence. Search eBay

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1445473807.jpg

matthewb0051 10-21-2015 05:33 PM

BTW: what is the wire connection in the fuel filler cap area? I have '69 and don't recall seeing that connection in my fuel filler area.

Thanks

kkinzli 10-21-2015 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by matthewb0051 (Post 8845954)
BTW: what is the wire connection in the fuel filler cap area? I have '69 and don't recall seeing that connection in my fuel filler area.

Thanks

Hi Matt,

I think the wire is a ground of some sort to reduce the chance of static electricity starting things on fire. I am sure some experts will chime in and give us the real answer.

911 tweaks 10-22-2015 04:07 AM

yup... gnd wire...if missing, replace metal filler neck part... you will see when you have a good/correct replacement part w/ the welded on male ground electrical spade connector on it...

kkinzli 10-22-2015 04:49 AM

Finally had a chance to wash the car yesterday. I have to admit I haven't washed it in at least 6 months. It was quite fun with my little helpers. Maybe we need to do it more often?


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1445514536.jpg

kkinzli 10-22-2015 05:06 AM

And here are the detail pictures of the refinished wheels. I had Alex Magro (Account Suspended (813)-431-7542) in Tampa do the work and I can highly recommend him. The cost was a little over $500 for the set. Here is a link to some previous posts about his work.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/723374-magro-wheel-story.html


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1445515538.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1445515554.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1445515570.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1445515584.jpg

Daves911L 10-22-2015 05:48 AM

Kristoph, the wheels look great! And what a contrast with the boys and the last photos you posted of them helping wash the car. Growing fast!

The wire mentioned on the gas filler is on every car. The filler neck is seated in a rubber sleeve through the fender, and joined to the tank with a rubber hose, so it is potentially isolated from the rest of the car and could build a static charge which could jump to the chassis. The wire simply insures it has the same electrical potential as the rest of the car. Gotta love those German engineers!

By the way, Charlotte says you may NOT drive "Hygge" (what she has christened HER green Targa) when you guys are here. But Anna is welcome to take it out any time, and the boys will fit perfect in the back!

DG


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