1976-1980 Cali Porsches!

[SandyI]

There is a bill to go before the California lawmakers that would return the smog exempt policy to 30 years instead of holding it at pre-1976. Check out the link attached and send out a couple emails. Could make your life a heckuva lot easier.

California Introduces Bill to Exempt pre-1981 Vehicles From Emissions Inspection Requirement

[vash]

it will pass. it will so pass, just because my car is a friggen 81.

you're welcome.

[1982911SCTarga]

That would bring a lot of early SCs more prominently into the market.

Brian

[DRACO A5OG]

If the states makes money they will let it pass, if not good luck.

[Peter Zimmermann]

Damn! Mine is an '82, so the SSIs will have to wait!

[83_Silberpfeil]

Wait a minute here. Why 1981 and older? That's very "arbitary". Why not revert back to 30 yrs and older cars? My 83 SC needs a break too!

[83_Silberpfeil]

Dr. Z --- are you suggesting wait till they change the law further to allow 1982's and older? Or are you suggesting they revert back to cars that are 30 yrs and older?

Originally Posted by Peter Zimmermann

Damn! Mine is an '82, so the SSIs will have to wait!

[pplkook]

I googled, but couldn't find the exact language of the bill.

The SEMA summary is worded poorly and can be interrupted to be that they are re-installing a 30yr rolling exemption OR moving the date from 76 to 81.

Anyone read the actual bill?

Jack

[Danny_Ocean]

Originally Posted by pplkook

I googled, but couldn't find the exact language of the bill.

The SEMA summary is worded poorly and can be interrupted to be that they are re-installing a 30yr rolling exemption OR moving the date from 76 to 81.

Anyone read the actual bill?

Jack

Your Googler must be broken...first Google result:

BILL NUMBER: SB 1224

INTRODUCED BY Senators La Malfa and Vargas

FEBRUARY 23, 2012

An act to amend Section 44011 of the Health and Safety Code,
relating to vehicular air pollution.


LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST


SB 1224, as introduced, La Malfa. Smog check: biennial inspection:
exemption.
Existing law establishes a motor vehicle inspection and
maintenance (smog check) program, administered by the Department of
Consumer Affairs. The smog check program requires inspection of motor
vehicles upon initial registration, biennially upon renewal of
registration, upon transfer of ownership, and in certain other
circumstances. Existing law exempts specified vehicles from being
inspected biennially upon renewal of registration, including, among
others, all motor vehicles manufactured prior to the 1976 model-year.

This bill instead would exempt all motor vehicles prior to the
1981 model-year from being inspected biennially upon renewal of
registration.
Vote: majority. Appropriation: no. Fiscal committee: yes.
State-mandated local program: no.


THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:

SECTION 1. Section 44011 of the Health and Safety Code is amended
to read:
44011. (a) All motor vehicles powered by internal combustion
engines that are registered within an area designated for program
coverage shall be required biennially to obtain a certificate of
compliance or noncompliance, except for the following:
(1) All motorcycles until the department, pursuant to Section
44012, implements test procedures applicable to motorcycles.
(2) All motor vehicles that have been issued a certificate of
compliance or noncompliance or a repair cost waiver upon a change of
ownership or initial registration in this state during the preceding
six months.
(3) All motor vehicles manufactured prior to the 1976
1981 model-year.
(4) (A) Except as provided in subparagraph (B), all motor vehicles
four or less model-years old.
(B) Beginning January 1, 2005, all motor vehicles six or less
model-years old, unless the state board finds that providing an
exception for these vehicles will prohibit the state from meeting the
requirements of Section 176(c) of the federal Clean Air Act (42
U.S.C. Sec. 7401 et seq.) or the state's commitments with respect to
the state implementation plan required by the federal Clean Air Act.
(C) All motor vehicles excepted by this paragraph shall be subject
to testing and to certification requirements as determined by the
department, if any of the following apply:
(i) The department determines through remote sensing activities or
other means that there is a substantial probability that the vehicle
has a tampered emission control system or would fail for other cause
a smog check test as specified in Section 44012.
(ii) The vehicle was previously registered outside this state and
is undergoing initial registration in this state.
(iii) The vehicle is being registered as a specially constructed
vehicle.
(iv) The vehicle has been selected for testing pursuant to Section
44014.7 or any other provision of this chapter authorizing
out-of-cycle testing.
(D) This paragraph does not apply to diesel-powered vehicles.
(5) In addition to the vehicles exempted pursuant to paragraph
(4), any motor vehicle or class of motor vehicles exempted pursuant
to subdivision (b) of Section 44024.5. It is the intent of the
Legislature that the department, pursuant to the authority granted by
this paragraph, exempt at least 15 percent of the lowest emitting
motor vehicles from the biennial smog check inspection.
(6) All motor vehicles that the department determines would
present prohibitive inspection or repair problems.
(7) Any vehicle registered to the owner of a fleet licensed
pursuant to Section 44020 if the vehicle is garaged exclusively
outside the area included in program coverage, and is not primarily
operated inside the area included in program coverage.
(8) (A) All diesel-powered vehicles manufactured prior to the 1998
model-year.
(B) All diesel-powered vehicles that have a gross vehicle weight
rating of 8,501 to 10,000 pounds, inclusive, until the department, in
consultation with the state board, pursuant to Section 44012,
implements test procedures applicable to these vehicles.
(C) All diesel-powered vehicles that have a gross vehicle weight
rating from 10,001 pounds to 14,000 pounds, inclusive, until the
state board and the Department of Motor Vehicles determine the best
method for identifying these vehicles, and until the department, in
consultation with the state board, pursuant to Section 44012,
implements test procedures applicable to these vehicles.
(D) All diesel-powered vehicles that have a gross vehicle weight
rating of 14,001 pounds or greater.
(b) Vehicles designated for program coverage in enhanced areas
shall be required to obtain inspections from appropriate smog check
stations operating in enhanced areas.
(c) For purposes of subdivision (a), a collector motor vehicle, as
defined in Section 259 of the Vehicle Code, is exempt from those
portions of the test required by subdivision (f) of Section 44012 if
the collector motor vehicle meets all of the following criteria:
(1) Submission of proof that the motor vehicle is insured as a
collector motor vehicle, as shall be required by regulation of the
bureau.
(2) The motor vehicle is at least 35 model-years old.
(3) The motor vehicle complies with the exhaust emissions
standards for that motor vehicle's class and model-year as prescribed
by the department, and the motor vehicle passes a functional
inspection of the fuel cap and a visual inspection for liquid fuel
leaks.
(d) This section shall become operative on January 1, 2010.

[szyzygy]

sweet. Can I get rid of my smog pump if this happens? What effect, if any, can I expect with my car's performance without it?

[ace123]

They are trying to keep more cars on the road so that they get their registration money etc...

[Koizumi]

Hope it passes but I'm sure it won't. CA is one big rotten swamp filled with agenda-fueled lobbyists--and their respective plastic surgery disaster counterparts.

[vash]

Originally Posted by szyzygy

sweet. Can I get rid of my smog pump if this happens? What effect, if any, can I expect with my car's performance without it?

none, really. maybe any parasitic power lost from the extra belt.

[86 911]

Wow, this would be quite a relief. I remember how angry I got when they passed the smog bill requiring '76 cars and newer to get smogged (mainly because mine is a '76). I have some hope, but like Koizumi previously mentioned, this state is more agenda driven than economically driven and has shot itself in the foot because of that. Cars have become so disposable now that there are barely any left that are 30 or even 20 years old... and these types of cars aren't driven very much due to their higher upkeep. I say we should do away with the bill entirely. One of my opportunities is to intern for one of the CA senators this summer. If I end up working with him, I'll mention the logic (or lack thereof) of the current ('76-present) bill. Since I'm sure my idea of not having a smog law might be too "radical" for CA, I'll opt for the one mentioned in this thread. As you can tell I fall into the Hayek (as opposed to Keynes) side of economics but I'll elaborate more on economics in the OT forum.

[80-911SC]

I agree with most that the rolling idea was correct and that when they froze it .. sucked .. but as far a needing smog laws .. I am far from being a tree hugger but I think we do need smog enforcement .. if not then its a free for all .. living in the valley here I does get a bit brown when the wind comes from the west and the bay gets blown out ...

They just need to look at it correctly .. most cars that are 30 + years old are more maintained than the new cars people drive .. especially the "classics" like ours .. the owners end to actually care about the car .. because its more than a car to us...

Hopefully they will go to the way it was meant to be .. besides when they did the cash for clunkers they thinned the heard of a lot of polluting vehicles and they did us a favor at the same time .. they got a lot of ugly cars off the road .. that may have been part of that if you remember the ones that made the list .. some made it because they were awful cars to begin with .. and there time had come to die ....

Just my opinion .. Please take it at that ..

by the way my 914 has carbs and if this goes right hopefully the SC will soon also ..

The after market would love that also .. If this goes buy stock in Weber ...

Steve

Also not on this topic but 4.69 for a gallon of gas .... WTF ????

[86 911]

Originally Posted by 80-911SC

Also not on this topic but 4.69 for a gallon of gas .... WTF ????

It hurts man... but you can thank Mr. Obama for that one. The Keystone Pipeline would have supplied a lot more oil to the US (well.. the Chinese were smart and made a contract to buy oil from Canada so now the pipeline will run west from Alberta to BC after Obama denied the US-CA contract)! There is also lots of speculation due to Iran but hopefully prices will come down soon. I'm glad that my 911 demanded some work to be done to it during these times.

[pplkook]

MMMM backdated galvanized body without smog....that will be nice.

Time to buy a SC.

-Jack

[Peter Zimmermann]

Originally Posted by 83_Silberpfeil

Dr. Z --- are you suggesting wait till they change the law further to allow 1982's and older? Or are you suggesting they revert back to cars that are 30 yrs and older?

Nah, my whole thing is wishful thinking that they just go back to the rolling 30-year rule. That said, we live smack-dab in the middle of the worst air quality in the lower 48. I was behind a smog-exempt Chrysler product, I think it was a 'Cuda, the other day in traffic. I could almost not breath, it was that bad. So, I'm kind of torn over the whole smog thing, because that one car produced some nasty, 1970s stuff out of its tailpipes.

My '74 914 is smog-exempt, but I resisted putting carbs on it, and, instead, repaired its FI. So I have kinda done my part with that car.

Because of how few '76-80 cars are still out there, it might be OK to go with the pre-'81 rule. I wish that they would come up with reasonable test specs so a car approaching exempt status would at least have to prove that it's running on all of its cylinders, etc., with some sort of a limit on HC that could be calculated using data from manufacturers.

[Tidybuoy]

Smog Check? What is this smog check that you speak of? My car is a '74 - do I need to get one?

[911Freak]

I wonder if they pass this to include model years 1976 to 1980 I could get an exemption through BAR b/c the engine currently in my car is an '80...hmmm

Fingers crossed for rolling 30yr exemption or exempt to 1981...