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BRAIDusa 02-26-2015 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by floridabmx (Post 8505421)
$4000 for semi forged reps? Id rather buy some genuine fuchs get them machined and buy all new bbs motorsport 17" halves personally.

Would these be original centers? Thirty year old centers? Metal fatigued centers?

Many of our customers say they prefer to trust new construction over excellent but old construction.

wayner 02-26-2015 04:55 AM

Classy response, I like it.

To be clear, these wheels are tested to German TUV standards, not some cheap uncertified Chinese knockoffs, am I right?

BRAIDusa 02-26-2015 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRAIDusa (Post 8505554)
Would these be original centers? Thirty year old centers? Metal fatigued centers?

Many of our customers say they prefer to trust new construction over excellent but old construction.

Sorry for my pre-coffee remarks above; they seem a little harsh in the caffeinated light I am now bathed in.

BRAIDusa 02-26-2015 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wayner (Post 8505644)
Classy response, I like it.

To be clear, these wheels are tested to German TUV standards, not some cheap uncertified Chinese knockoffs, am I right?

Classy? perhaps a little brusque? Anyway, yes, they are tested to TUV standards.

BRAIDusa 03-08-2015 02:18 PM

Here's a quick picture I snapped today of the ET0 17x11 on the back of a 930.

http://images2.snapfish.com/23232323...6%3C3336nu0mrj

BRAIDusa 03-08-2015 02:25 PM

and a picture of the backside for Kaefer


http://images2.snapfish.com/23232323...29859336nu0mrj

Shaun @ Tru6 03-08-2015 02:41 PM

Lighting adjusted

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1425854470.jpg

BRAIDusa 03-08-2015 02:43 PM

[QUOTE=Shaun 84 Targa;8521202]Lighting adjusted

Thanks you Shaun.

BRAIDusa 03-09-2015 07:36 AM

Here are a few more:

http://images2.snapfish.com/23232323...3A%3C245ot1lsi

http://images2.snapfish.com/23232323...C%3B4245ot1lsi

http://images2.snapfish.com/23232323...6%3C4336nu0mrj

BRAIDusa 03-11-2015 05:25 PM

I got a tire mounted on the 11x17 today. A worn out 315/35-17 Nitto.

http://images2.snapfish.com/23232323...9%3C8336nu0mrj


Then test fitted it on a 2002 996 Carrera 2.

http://images2.snapfish.com/23232323...3A524245ot1lsi

http://images2.snapfish.com/23232323...3B%3C245ot1lsi

http://images2.snapfish.com/23232323...3B%3A245ot1lsi


I wasn't concerned about tire clearance or anything. This is a ET0 offset 930 wheel after all. No, I wanted to check that the inner profile would clear big brakes. I needn't have been concerned. Looks like we nailed it.

In the rear the caliper as almost flush with the mounting face, just like a 930 so there's loads of room:

http://images2.snapfish.com/23232323...3A526245ot1lsi

http://images2.snapfish.com/23232323...3A528245ot1lsi


But in the front it sits proud of the wheel mounting face, by quite a lot. Fortunately this is what we were trying to accommodate with the design so it fit perfectly :)

http://images2.snapfish.com/23232323...67324245ot1lsi

http://images2.snapfish.com/23232323...A3%3A336nu0mrj



Big thanks to Auto Europe in Birmingham for the loan of the 996 and for mounting the tire. (I think they want a set or two to be honest). The car is for sale by the way.

http://images2.snapfish.com/23232323...3C%3A336nu0mrj



I'm not sure what brakes are on a 02 Carrera 2 but I think thsy might be the same as the 993 Turbo: the Big reds! If that's the case then we are could to go on any 964, 993 and at least a 996 Carrera 2.

Later this week I'll put it on the 930 again and, if I can find any, a 964 and 993.

We also now have pricing and offset ranges for each width so I will be publishing those later this week. Wheels are now in production so we should be able to start shipping very soon!

Very exciting.

KTL 03-12-2015 06:55 AM

996 Carrera 2 has moderately sized brakes. They're a bit larger in front than 993 in rotor diameter but the caliper itself is smaller. Rears are generally the same size but 993 has a much deeper rotor offset.

996 vs 993

Front 318x28 vs. 304x32
Rear 299x24 vs. 299x24

Big Red (turbo) 996 vs 993

Front 330x34 vs 322x32
Rear 330x28 vs 322x28

The 996 style calipers are rather bulky and can present clearance problems. 996tt Brakes for 911 993 style calipers are a bit sleeker and offer a little better clearance Big Red complete upgrade for 911 914 930

930 clearance should be a non-issue. 930 brakes can fit under 15 in. Fuchs

BRAIDusa 03-12-2015 07:19 AM

Thanks Kevin. That's very useful. I'm really good up to 1989 then I get a bit vague.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KTL (Post 8527055)
996 Carrera 2 has moderately sized brakes. They're a bit larger in front than 993 in rotor diameter but the caliper itself is smaller. Rears are generally the same size but 993 has a much deeper rotor offset.

996 vs 993

Front 318x28 vs. 304x32
Rear 299x24 vs. 299x24

Big Red (turbo) 996 vs 993

Front 330x34 vs 322x32
Rear 330x28 vs 322x28

The 996 style calipers are rather bulky and can present clearance problems. 996tt Brakes for 911 993 style calipers are a bit sleeker and offer a little better clearance Big Red complete upgrade for 911 914 930

930 clearance should be a non-issue. 930 brakes can fit under 15 in. Fuchs


BRAIDusa 03-13-2015 03:46 PM

Here are a few pics from this evening's 930 test fit, with tire!

http://images2.snapfish.com/23232323...%3B55336nu0mrj

http://images2.snapfish.com/23232323...%3B52336nu0mrj

http://images2.snapfish.com/23232323...%3B57336nu0mrj

http://images2.snapfish.com/23232323...%3B59336nu0mrj

http://images2.snapfish.com/23232323...26289336nu0mrj

jhelgesen 03-13-2015 04:06 PM

Thats hawt

OldSpool87 03-13-2015 04:12 PM

Paul,

Could you take a few of the front wheels maybe at half lock?

Thanks!

930 ZZZ 03-13-2015 05:03 PM

Paul,

What size of tires are you running?

Thanks

BRAIDusa 03-14-2015 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 930 ZZZ (Post 8529385)
Paul,

What size of tires are you running?

Thanks


This one is 11" width at ET0 with a 315/35 tire. Available from 7" to 12" wide in 1/2" increments from ET-50 to ET70 for 911, 964, 993, 996, 924, 944, Boxster and probably a few others.

BRAIDusa 03-14-2015 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSpool87 (Post 8529332)
Paul,

Could you take a few of the front wheels maybe at half lock?

Thanks!

Well, yes and no. The front is a CCW. We only have the one rear wheel stateside right now as it's a prototype.

BRAIDusa 03-20-2015 06:09 AM

We did it!
 
So I think it is fair to say today is the BIG day. With today's introduction of the new, full range of BRAID 17" Porsche Classic wheels I think we can say this project has concluded!

Thank you so much to everyone who either had technical input, encouraging words or trusted us enough to put down actual money to make these wheels become a reality. The Pelican community truly is special. With that said here is the range of widths, offsets, weights and prices that should soon be available from our hosts:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7281/1...e5666008_b.jpg
For RSR finish please add $100 per wheel. Custom finishes are also possible. Weights are approximate and depend on final specification.


Those of you who know about these things may already have realized that the exstensive offset range coupled with the built in brake clearance people requested means that these wheels can be ordered to fit way more than pre 1990 911s. We can now offer authentic looking, high quality classic wheels for 964, 993, 996 and maybe even beyond. 924, 944, 928 and 968 should be possible too as well as Boxster and perhaps Cayman. Spread the word. classic wheels for everyone!.

Although these wheels are ready to order now and are actually in production it should be noted that they won't be ready to ship to sometime in June.

Any questions let me know and thank you all once more.

PcarPhil 03-20-2015 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRAIDusa (Post 8529285)

How much negative camber is dialed into that rear suspension?


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